SoxAce Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Ouch.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Pretty surprised SD valued Trammel as better than Reyes / Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said: Correct, but I doubt he would have gotten a QO anyway Thanks German...just curious since Puig could be a target for a short term contract this off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, SoxAce said: Ouch.. He should just man up and get one related to every team he plays for in his career. This trade makes a bit more sense if they're trying to win. Their OF was trash and they just upgraded two positions, and Kluber, Salazar are back soon, and Carrasco should return by the end of the season. Edited July 31, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Did I hear Pedro Martinez right last week that Franmil’s brother is in the Sox system and he’s bigger than Franmil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I hope Bauer has a few starts left against the Cubbies this year 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What's the point of the Indians acquiring a rental in Puig? Reyes is the key of the trade for them mostly, and Allen, for the future. Meanwhile, both Puig and Reyes will help their awful offense for this year since they are only 2.5 games back. Don’t they have the worst group of outfielders in baseball? Edited July 31, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What's the point of the Indians acquiring a rental in Puig? They're leading the wild card and 2.5 games back of the division. They let the best prospect in the deal go to San Diego in lieu. This isn't them blowing it up but now just about the worst outfield among the playoff teams just got two starters although I guess Franmil would DH Edited July 31, 2019 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Pretty surprised SD valued Trammel as better than Reyes / Allen I don’t get that at all. Edited July 31, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Pretty surprised SD valued Trammel as better than Reyes / Allen The Padres need as many 40 man roster spots as they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 And I do like Trammel but a pretty tough year for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The Padres need as many 40 man roster spots as they can get. Can they leave off trammel another year or just the 2 for 1 aspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On the flip side of that, Taylor Trammell is listed among the biggest fallers, dropping from 15 to 28 on the list. Here’s what they had to say: Currently out with a hamstring issue, Trammell has just been so-so in his first taste of Double-A (.245/.366/.333), particularly scuffling in May with a .200/.352/.284 line. Knew the Padres had to trade someone to break the OF logjam, and they chose to keep Renfroe due to the fact he’s a better defender and flashes a great throwing arm (second most assists). Reyes is streaky as hell. Allen was down to their #7 pitching prospect and didn’t show that much in the majors this year when he had the opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bmags said: And I do like Trammel but a pretty tough year for him. I don't think he has to be added until next off season (not this off season). Edited July 31, 2019 by Harold's Leg Lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 San Diego still has Jankowski (recovering from injury), Cordero, Margot, Myers and Renfroe and Josh Naylor...and have even been trying Mejia out there. Nobody will take Myers’ contract, need Margot for defense and they desperately needed to add athleticism/speed/range to their outfield. In the long term, their outfield has to be Renfroe, Myers and Trammell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Well, CLE just got a lot better offensively for the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Puig just got ejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I’m sure CLE is ecstatic Puig was in a brawl as the trade leaked lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 So is Puig going to be the first suspended player to be traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: It's the right move though. Anyone with a brain knows that. Why? Why the hell didn’t sox find a way to get in on this. I’d take Bauer for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Why? Why the hell didn’t sox find a way to get in on this. I’d take Bauer for next year. Because Kluber, Salazar and Carrasco will all be returning. They have a full rotation with those 3, Clevinger and Bieber. Reyes is a long term piece. Their OF was trash and Puig and Reyes are a huge upgrade there. Edited July 31, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Puig and Reyes are below average defenders, Franmil worth 1.2 fWAR last year and 1.4 (heading for 2) this year. If you judge him solely by OPS and gaudy homer numbers, you’re making a mistake. Puig 1.8 and 0.9 the last two seasons...but still two upgrades compared to what they were running out there. The issue is that you have to believe Kluber, Carrasco, Bieber and Clevinger can carry that rotation and stay healthy. Bauer has the best stuff, but most volatile and self-destructive. This is all about Francona controlling that clubhouse and not tolerating Bauer’s idiosyncrasies, not after Sunday’s inexplicable meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Because Kluber, Salazar and Carrasco will all be returning. They have a full rotation with those 3, Clevinger and Bieber. Reyes is a long term piece. Their OF was trash and Puig and Reyes are a huge upgrade there. Huge is pushing it. A couple of 1-2 fWAR power hitters with limited defensive skills, especially Reyes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Puig and Reyes are below average defenders, Franmil worth 1.2 fWAR last year and 1.4 (heading for 2) this year. If you judge him solely by OPS and gaudy homer numbers, you’re making a mistake. Puig 1.8 and 0.9 the last two seasons...but still two upgrades compared to what they were running out there. The issue is that you have to believe Kluber, Carrasco, Bieber and Clevinger can carry that rotation and stay healthy. Bauer has the best stuff, but most volatile and self-destructive. This is all about Francona controlling that clubhouse and not tolerating Bauer’s idiosyncrasies, not after Sunday’s inexplicable meltdown. It's actually not that complex. They don't want to pay Bauer like 18 mil in arb in the off season and have a staff that will be fine for a push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Good lord they keep announcing the Indians are getting players. Pretty soon the Sox, Yankees and Astros will be sending them players as part of this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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