poppysox Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, DirtySox said: As long as Hamels isn't plan 1A for starting pitchers, I'm fine with it. If we make an offer to Hamels it will be a Hobson's Choice. A lowball take it or leave it. He only has some value if Coop thinks he can fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Well Hamels to the White Sox would be right up Kenny's playbook. Lets get aging vet who used to be good on the twilight of his career for some lightning in the bottle. Edited December 3, 2019 by southsideirish71 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, poppysox said: If we make an offer to Hamels it will be a Hobson's Choice. A lowball take it or leave it. He only has some value if Coop thinks he can fix him. When was the last time coop fixed anyone. Are we sending Hamels to Gio's high school coach to fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hamels is still good when healthy guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Hamels is still good when healthy guys. Problem is he’s had oblique issues 2 of the last 3 years. He also looked washed up last time in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: When was the last time coop fixed anyone. Are we sending Hamels to Gio's high school coach to fix him. I know the Coop thing is a yuk yuk...but if he's the pitching coaching they should be getting his opinion on these FA pitchers. Also, Grandal & McCann would be worth getting their two cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, poppysox said: I know the Coop thing is a yuk yuk...but if he's the pitching coaching they should be getting his opinion on these FA pitchers. Also, Grandal & McCann would be worth getting their two cents worth. We have a massive amount of financial flexibility. It has to be Cole, Strasburg or Wheeler. I don't want to see option C or D unless its to augment what we know to be getting a primary ToR pitcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Problem is he’s had oblique issues 2 of the last 3 years. He also looked washed up last time in the AL. He did, but that being said when he got to the Cubs he had a velocity jump back to his previous levels. He was throwing 90-91 with the Rangers. He was throwing 93-94 with the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 👀👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: We have a massive amount of financial flexibility. It has to be Cole, Strasburg or Wheeler. I don't want to see option C or D unless its to augment what we know to be getting a primary ToR pitcher. I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Orlando said: 👀👀 It's for clicks. They would not be announcing any signing on Chuck Garfiens podcast lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: 👀👀 So the Sox and Hamels already agreed to terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: 👀👀 Scary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said: So the Sox and Hamels already agreed to terms. That's what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 It will likely be him saying how promising the Sox future is and that any free agent should be interested in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: It's for clicks. They would not be announcing any signing on Chuck Garfiens podcast lol. That. Hell, he wouldnt even be on the podcast if there was some heavy mutual interest right now. Garfien is being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 JR people will come to see him. They went to Wrigley to see him. And get this. He is in line with our cost projections. I say we sign him and get some lightning in the bottle. We can then go all in on Cole and show him that our incentive based plan with deferred payments and team options is more sensible than up front cash. Think of all the taxes we can save him when we pay him less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: We have a massive amount of financial flexibility. It has to be Cole, Strasburg or Wheeler. I don't want to see option C or D unless its to augment what we know to be getting a primary ToR pitcher. Unprecedented “massive amount of financial flexibility”. AND the Sox are a major market team, with a shiny, new TV deal in place. To NOT be in on either Cole or Strasburg dismisses outright Hahn’s claim that the “money will be spent” on premium talent when the time is right. If they don’t compete for the Coles and Strasburgs of the world now, they never will, which would call into question their true commitment to winning. Wheeler is a nice piece, but he’s not on the level of the other two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 55 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: He did, but that being said when he got to the Cubs he had a velocity jump back to his previous levels. He was throwing 90-91 with the Rangers. He was throwing 93-94 with the Cubs. This is the exact opposite of what his velocity chart for the season shows, his velocity dropped with the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlsoxfan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think I might be sick. We go from talking about Wheeler to possibly signing Hamels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: This is the exact opposite of what his velocity chart for the season shows, his velocity dropped with the Cubs. Go look at 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Go look at 2018. Was 2018 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, southsideirish71 said: Was 2018 last year. Yeah, but Balta referenced 2019 in his evidence. 2018 was exactly how I described it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Brilliant. Wheeler starts to sweat that we might be pivoting toward other pitchers and that our offer, which is currently the highest, might not be available for much longer. Wheeler to the good guys by Thursday. Book it. Time to figure out RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Brilliant. Wheeler starts to sweat that we might be pivoting toward other pitchers and that our offer, which is currently the highest, might not be available for much longer. Wheeler to the good guys by Thursday. Book it. Time to figure out RF. Manny, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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