1 minute ago, TomPickle said:

The Machado offer was a joke so I'd probably just try to keep focus on this off-season if you're trying to heap praise on the White Sox front office.

How am I heaping praise? Because I wont say this offseason has been a failure? Ok, guy.

You know no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to be a white sox fan, right?

Edited December 10, 20196 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Its not good, but price and benetendi for that + arb prices is fine.

Like 2 weeks ago LARR here said that he wouldn't want Price + Benintendi unless they attached $30 million - now that pitching prices have caught up with inflation, it really does seem like a sensible deal to take those 2 on for limited return.

6 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said:

you think price at 96 million is a good?

Benni.

If we can get Price + Beni for little to nothing that would be amazing. Price's contract is horrid, but plugging in Beni into the OF solves that hole for us. 

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Like 2 weeks ago LARR here said that he wouldn't want Price + Benintendi unless they attached $30 million - now that pitching prices have caught up with inflation, it really does seem like a sensible deal to take those 2 on for limited return.

It almost makes too much sense, if the Red Sox were willing to attach Benni..

I'd guess Sox going after Price and JD Martinez for minimal talent going the other way is more likely than taking one of their cheaper players.

Am I the only one waiting to be disappointed when Boston trades us Jackie Bradley and Eovaldi?  ?

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

 

Why would the reds give moustakas but not match what the sox paid to Grandal?

If 7 million wasn't enough, I have no idea why 12 would be. 

No DH at bats and Moose has positional versatility. Maybe they think Grandal will fall off a cliff after year 2 while Moose may still be steady. If the Reds played in the AL, things may have been different. 

If the Red Sox were willing to send Price and Benitendi to the White Sox for little return then that trade already would have happened.

Beni lacks the arm or power for RF. He'd be absolutely perfect in LF if Eloy moves to DH. 

I'd take them both, if BOS eats 20m of the 96m. 

I'd still get Joc for RF. 

Eloy to DH. Jose stays at 1B this year. Have no clue what to do with him next year...that extension really screwed us. 

6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Like 2 weeks ago LARR here said that he wouldn't want Price + Benintendi unless they attached $30 million - now that pitching prices have caught up with inflation, it really does seem like a sensible deal to take those 2 on for limited return.

I don't think you're blatantly lying about something I said, I think you are just mis-remembering, but I never once was against the Price acquisition so please don't attempt to belittle my point by lying about something I said. You got two people to laugh and think you were right though, so you got that going for you. I said I would be all for the deal, and I never said the Red Sox would have to add any money.

On 11/7/2019 at 9:28 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Price was on a 4.5 WAR pace this year. He's no longer a star, but he certainly is still a + starter who would liking get 20+ million a year if he was a FA. He's probably overpaid by about 30 million so Benetendis surplus value would negate that difference and the sox should only have to give up a middling prospect.

On 11/7/2019 at 9:37 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Price was no where near a 2 WAR pitcher this year. He accumulated 2.3 WAR in just 100 IP. Price has never had a FIP above 4.02. The demise of David Price has been greatly exaggerated because of his market and contract. 

Price and Benetendi for 32 million is more valuable than Cole for 32 million imo. I don't think it straps the Sox at all.

Edited December 10, 20196 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run

9 minutes ago, Jake said:

I'd guess Sox going after Price and JD Martinez for minimal talent going the other way is more likely than taking one of their cheaper players.

It has to be Price + Benintendi or else it makes no sense.  Price + JD Martinez would be $55.75 million added to the payroll.

Edited December 10, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan

7 minutes ago, Jake said:

I'd guess Sox going after Price and JD Martinez for minimal talent going the other way is more likely than taking one of their cheaper players.

which I would be completely fine with.. I love me some JD

2 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

It has to be Price + Benintendi or else it makes no sense.  Price + JD Martinez would be $55.75 million added to the payroll.

That's how you get good players without giving up good players.

Another plausible alternative that adds less to the payroll is also getting Jackie Bradley Jr although I think the Red Sox have a little less incentive to move him for nothing since he isn't earning as much.

4 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

It has to be Price + Benintendi or else it makes no sense.  Price + JD Martinez would be $55.75 million added to the payroll.

It would make sense if Boston took on half of their deals... But yeah.. It kinda has to be Price and Beni

I agree if AB is added taking on the whole $96 million is no big deal as you fill two holes and give up basically nothing.  If it's JDM instead of AB, then there needs to be a significant amount of $$ added because we still have a hole in RF.  

17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

How am I heaping praise? Because I wont say this offseason has been a failure? Ok, guy.

You know no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to be a white sox fan, right?

Don't chase this guy away the White Sox can use every fan they can get

with Mookie Betts all but gone, there is no way the Red Sox are parting with AB..   

20 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

You know no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to be a white sox fan, right?

Obviously you've never met my dad.

Just now, centerfieldsixers said:

with Mookie Betts all but gone, there is no way the Red Sox are parting with AB..   

I don't think the Red Sox are letting a HOF caliber player leave in his prime.

They'll move money (Price, JBJ, maybe JDM) and they'll resign Mookie next off-season.

12 minutes ago, bschmaranz said:

Am I the only one waiting to be disappointed when Boston trades us Jackie Bradley and Eovaldi?  ?

Honestly? I wouldn't hate that trade as long as we give up nothing at all. Yonder Alonso type return. I haven't researched Eovaldi enough, but a 3 year deal at like $15mm a year all of a sudden seems like a steal. If we signed him 3/$48 as a FA this year I think our fan base would be excited. If we did JBJ at 1/$11 I think people would say it's an overpay, but obviously it's just one year. That would also make a scary good defensive OF with him and Robert. Pencil in Eovaldi as your SP3 ..... Gio, _____ , Eovaldi, Kopech, Cease, Lopez ... just go with a 6 man until someone gets hurt. Limit the innings of Eovaldi, Kopech and Cease.. I"m actually talking myself into this as a nice plan. haha

FYI if Sox trade for JDM I think he has an out clause after 2020........

1 minute ago, BrianAnderson said:

Honestly? I wouldn't hate that trade as long as we give up nothing at all. Yonder Alonso type return. I haven't researched Eovaldi enough, but a 3 year deal at like $15mm a year all of a sudden seems like a steal. If we signed him 3/$48 as a FA this year I think our fan base would be excited. If we did JBJ at 1/$11 I think people would say it's an overpay, but obviously it's just one year. That would also make a scary good defensive OF with him and Robert. Pencil in Eovaldi as your SP3 ..... Gio, _____ , Eovaldi, Kopech, Cease, Lopez ... just go with a 6 man until someone gets hurt. Limit the innings of Eovaldi, Kopech and Cease.. I"m actually talking myself into this as a nice plan. haha

Okay just looked at baseball reference for stats on both... I wouldn't be as excited. I don't want either unless they're chipping in like $10mm or a fringe prospect too. hah

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I don't think the Red Sox are letting a HOF caliber player leave in his prime.

They'll move money (Price, JBJ, maybe JDM) and they'll resign Mookie next off-season.

there is no guarantee on him re-signing.  dont we know that much already.  nothing is a sure thing.

Price scares the h out of me for his price tag.  what has he have to prove anymore?  do we think Coop can get him back to normal?

 

dont spend money to spend money    be smart

2 minutes ago, Wisebri224 said:

FYI if Sox trade for JDM I think he has an out clause after 2020........

Correct.  He has an opt-out after the 2020 season with no buyout.  He had an opt-out clause after last season but chose to stay.