Hey at least we know he has "stupid pop". ?

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/rangers/2019/06/26/joey-gallo-on-nomar-mazara-s-stupid-pop-his-scouting-report-of-the-rangers-while-he-was-out-with-an-injury/

Gallo: "That guy has stupid pop. I mean, he out-hits me in batting practice. He's putting balls on the roof in batting practice. He has amazing power. I think he's starting to translate it now into the game, and it takes a while to get that stroke going because he was kind of a contact guy, more gap to gap, but he's a strong dude. He can put the balls out there with me."

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

 

Who is the top 3 MVP candidate we gave up?

Marcus Semien

4 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

At 24, I really don't care what dumb ass WAR he's posted in the past. 

The question is, is there any potential to un-tap going forward? 

 

 

He’s been impressively consistent at being mediocre for the entire four seasons of his career.  I’m sure he has upside at his age but what does that matter when he’s only under control for two seasons with Boras as his agent?

https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigMish/status/1204635211943727104

Holy fuck, so many White Sox fans are insufferable assholes.

Steele Walker is a 23 year old platoon/fringe prospect in high A. Mazara was a former top 20 prospect and is only 24.

ONLY 24!

Until this past season, Mazara was considered to be a core piece of the Rangers rebuild. The Sox are buying very low here. Could they have gotten Mazara for Walker this time last year? Absolutely not.

If Mazara improves just a little either offensively or defensively, he will be an above average regular. Walker will be fortunate to ever make the majors.

Get a fucking hold of yourselves.

Now, get Encarnacion for DH, a SP, and a RP, and call it good.

12 minutes ago, fathom said:

Rangers fans melting down about the crappy return

Yeah, this may win Twitter:

 

4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Dumpster diving.

So much for Price/Benintendi and officially no Joc.

This sucks! 

Props to Moan4Yoan....he called it. He isn't a pessimist, he's just a realist

 

It is what it is and it’s not changing until Reinsdorf is gone.  The Sox will never spend with the big boys until they get a new owner.  Until then, Kenny and Hahn have to make bad trades for fliers and hope they pan out.  Sure seems like a solid strategy to build a winner to me...

Maybe Gallo means he is stupid hitter. I don't care how many HR he hits if he only walks 30 times he is a selfish hitter, this is a Jim Thome pick. We need smart unselfish hitters. Not boom or bust guys that hit 20 doubles and can't draw a walk to save a fly. 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Chisox378

9 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

At 24, I really don't care what dumb ass WAR he's posted in the past. 

The question is, is there any potential to un-tap going forward? 

 

 

Maybe, and then if he does, he’ll be a free agent. 

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CraigMish/status/1204635211943727104

Lmao wtf this can’t be real

Kenny always gets his guy

Ok yeah this is uninspiring but it's still Dec 11. If this is it, squarely a bad offseason for the Sox. No question.

What makes no sense to me is people complaining that, if he's good, we're going to lose him in the middle of our 4 year window. Umm, yeah, if he's good we have a good player for half our window? There's no downside to Mazara being good at baseball for 2020 and/or 2021.

I don't think this is all that likely a scenario, it's just a nonsensical argument.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/statcast-pitch-highlighter?playerId=608577&batHand=&pitchHand=&pitchType=&year=2019&zone=&hitCoords=81.21875,295.3455810546875,114.06473541259766,300

I wonder if the F.O. hopes that gap power translates to our park as Texas ballpark has bigger alleys. 

9 minutes ago, Dickie Kerr said:

Holy fuck, so many White Sox fans are insufferable assholes.

Steele Walker is a 23 year old platoon/fringe prospect in high A. Mazara was a former top 20 prospect and is only 24.

ONLY 24!

Until this past season, Mazara was considered to be a core piece of the Rangers rebuild. The Sox are buying very low here. Could they have gotten Mazara for Walker this time last year? Absolutely not.

If Mazara improves just a little either offensively or defensively, he will be an above average regular. Walker will be fortunate to ever make the majors.

Get a fucking hold of yourselves.

Now, get Encarnacion for DH, a SP, and a RP, and call it good.

Isn’t this just a further indictment of Mazara as a target?  Mazara’s value dropped even more since last year because he had another mediocre season, not even accumulating 1 WAR, so we were able to acquire him more cheaply?  ?

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan

Watch this dude go Jorge Soler next season.

Just now, SoxAce said:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/statcast-pitch-highlighter?playerId=608577&batHand=&pitchHand=&pitchType=&year=2019&zone=&hitCoords=81.21875,295.3455810546875,114.06473541259766,300

I wonder if the F.O. hopes that gap power translates to our park as Texas ballpark has bigger alleys. 

I hope Frank Menechino sees something. 

Funny thing is he’s probably our 2nd best hitter against RHP behind Yoan

Is there any hope they still sign Castallenos and we rotate the DH between Castallenos/Mazara/Abreu/Eloy/McCann? 
 

Please say yes. 

4 minutes ago, ScottyDo said:

Ok yeah this is uninspiring but it's still Dec 11. If this is it, squarely a bad offseason for the Sox. No question.

What makes no sense to me is people complaining that, if he's good, we're going to lose him in the middle of our 4 year window. Umm, yeah, if he's good we have a good player for half our window? There's no downside to Mazara being good at baseball for 2020 and/or 2021.

I don't think this is all that likely a scenario, it's just a nonsensical argument.

Ya I love that one. “If he’s good his agent is Boras and he’s good as gone!” Like who gives a fuck - if he’s good we just found a fuckton of surplus value. Not super excited for this move, but I had Mazara like 6-8 range on my RF target list. If Ricky uses him correctly, it’ll be alright. 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by ChiSox59

Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I hope Frank Menechino sees something. 

I joked about it earlier but I'm hoping this is the case.

No offense, but Nomar's stats look like Avi's in an Avi bad year. I know Nomar comes very cheap. This makes sense. Cost efficient right fielder who is very young and could blossom on our team. I prefer Avi but I am an Avi guy.

Just now, soxfan3530 said:

Is there any hope they still sign Castallenos and we rotate the DH between Castallenos/Mazara/Abreu/Eloy/McCann? 
 

Please say yes. 

No

1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said:

Isn’t this just a further indictment of Mazara as a target?  Mazara’s value dropped even more since last year since he had another mediocre season, not even accumulating 1 WAR, so we were able to acquire him more cheaply?  ?

Hes elite talent. 

 

This could be a hitting equivalent of the Cubs trading for Arrieta.  Look at the Bill James write up a few pages back before the season.  He comes him to Albert Pujols

4 minutes ago, Dickie Kerr said:

Holy fuck, so many White Sox fans are insufferable assholes.

Steele Walker is a 23 year old platoon/fringe prospect in high A. Mazara was a former top 20 prospect and is only 24.

ONLY 24!

Until this past season, Mazara was considered to be a core piece of the Rangers rebuild. The Sox are buying very low here. Could they have gotten Mazara for Walker this time last year? Absolutely not.

If Mazara improves just a little either offensively or defensively, he will be an above average regular. Walker will be fortunate to ever make the majors.

Get a fucking hold of yourselves.

Now, get Encarnacion for DH, a SP, and a RP, and call it good.

Meanwhile, better players will sign for similar money for other teams, who didn’t have to give up talent to get them.  

And every “a SP” that could reasonably be expected to be better than a mid-to-back rotation starter and was available has already signed with other teams that had less payroll flexibility than the Sox. 

1 minute ago, soxfan3530 said:

Is there any hope they still sign Castallenos and we rotate the DH between Castallenos/Mazara/Abreu/Eloy/McCann? 
 

Please say yes. 

No because we gave Abreu 3 years and 50 million dollars for no reason.