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2020 Draft: Day 2 Discussion

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Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

how?  I don't think there was any rumblings of him going much higher while there was legit rumblings of him falling.

And FWIW Not Cishek is saying they got him (Crochet) under slot

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Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

how?  I don't think there was any rumblings of him going much higher while there was legit rumblings of him falling.

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

I think Kelley was the most excited I've been about a 2nd round pick since Ryan Sweeney.  I'm trying to remember a more exciting 2nd rounder.  I know Gio Gonzalez was a supplemental first.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

As a college Jr with his lack of a history in this draft, I bet they did.  

This makes no sense. Juniors have plenty of leverage. Especially juniors in a year with so many questions, whom throw 99 MPH with elite secondary pitches from the left side who happen to be huge. Seniors have no leverage - even less than the zero they usually have. A junior still has a little leverage, and he can say he'll sign for less but it's not 1+ million less imo. No way. Not a guy with his talent in a unique situation.

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Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

He's a college JR who had two really medicore seasons, and pitched like a god for three weeks.  He also had a shoulder injury in that time.  If he goes back, he has zero leverage next year as a SR.  I have no doubt they saved some money just by the fact they obviously have a deal done with Kelley as well, so they know they can make him fit.

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

Society isnt normal right now. You cant just pass on $3mil.

2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

And FWIW Not Cishek is saying they got him (Crochet) under slot

I think they probably did but I think Not Steve Cishek should have retired his posting habits like 6 or 8 months ago.  He's right about the sun coming up in the morning every day at about 5:30 or so.

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

He has no leverage. He has no history. He will be underslot

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

He's a college JR who had two really medicore seasons, and pitched like a god for three weeks.  He also had a shoulder injury in that time.  If he goes back, he has zero leverage next year as a SR.  I have no doubt they saved some money just by the fact they obviously have a deal done with Kelley as well, so they know they can make him fit.

I am agreeing they 100% can make them both fit. I'm saying they can not make anyone else fit.

1 minute ago, HollywoodTim said:

I think they probably did but I think Not Steve Cishek should have retired his posting habits like 6 or 8 months ago.  He's right about the sun coming up in the morning every day at about 5:30 or so.

Hasn't he been right with just about everything loll

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I am agreeing they 100% can make them both fit. I'm saying they can not make anyone else fit.

Guess we will see in a few hours! 

1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

He has no leverage. He has no history. He will be underslot

He will not go for 20th+ pick slot. Arguing that is absurd, imo. At best, they get him for around 3.75. And then they're having to pay Kelley 3 to 3.5+ and again, the pool is spent. The draft is over for the Sox.

Even though it’s supposedly a deep draft, if you are going to go quality over quantity, I think it makes sense to do it this year when there’s only 5 total rounds.  How much quantity are we really missing out on? Or am I looking at it wrong?

3 minutes ago, HollywoodTim said:

I think they probably did but I think Not Steve Cishek should have retired his posting habits like 6 or 8 months ago.  He's right about the sun coming up in the morning every day at about 5:30 or so.

He's right a lot

Wow at the Mets also getting Greene.

Some asshole scheduled a 4:30 meeting out of the blue, what did I miss?

4 minutes ago, HollywoodTim said:

I think they probably did but I think Not Steve Cishek should have retired his posting habits like 6 or 8 months ago.  He's right about the sun coming up in the morning every day at about 5:30 or so.

Am I the only one who thinks Not Cishek is James Fox’s burner account?

Just now, DirtySox said:

Wow at the Mets also getting Greene.

Van Weenie has had a sneaky couple good drafts.

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

As a college Jr with his lack of a history in this draft, I bet they did.  

Let me clarify:

They got him under slot, but they got him for a lot less under slot than they just spent over slot on round 2. I think it's a lot less of a savings as you guys seem to believe.

With these 2 picks + signing Vera IF they sign Colas and Cespedes, are they back to a top 5 farm?

1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Am I the only one who thinks Not Cishek is James Fox’s burner account?

I think maybe he rolls Hector Gomez's cigars.  I used to think that maybe there was some source loosely connected to the Sox which was serving both, but I think James has consistently better source(s).

What is that Parada (catchers) draft ranking/expected slot?

1 minute ago, HollywoodTim said:

I think maybe he rolls Hector Gomez's cigars.  I used to think that maybe there was some source loosely connected to the Sox which was serving both, but I think James has consistently better source(s).

He's literally be right at about everything this offseason lol..

Ray speaking in absolutes again has me pretty confident that they'll get Crochet signed underslot now.

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What if, not Steve Ciscek is actually Steve Ciscek... lol kidding

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