August 30, 20205 yr The Indians & Sox being tied for 1st place at the deadline and making a blockbuster trade would be historic. I still think the Clevinger rumor is a plant to drive leverage for some other deal, but man would it be crazy if it actually went down.
August 30, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Soxsi75 said: How long would we be in control of Clevinger's contract? Through 2022
August 30, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Through 2022 You think that's long enough? I don't want him walking after only that short a time and then Kopech haunt us for years in our division. If this happens, they better make Clevinger haunt Cleveland for years in the division.
August 30, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, Orlando said: Bobby boy again Yeah, fresh tweet from Nightengale. He has to be pushing this narrative for someone.
August 30, 20205 yr Author 15 minutes ago, fathom said: Wouldn’t even trade him for Tatis given no extension and positional need on the Sox Acuna basically the closest. But yeah...at this point hard to say why even though Acuna May be poised to be a bit better
August 30, 20205 yr Just now, Soxsi75 said: You think that's long enough? I don't want him walking after only that short a time and then Kopech haunt us for years in our division. If this happens, they better make Clevinger haunt Cleveland for years in the division. Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen.
August 30, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Yeah, fresh tweet from Nightengale. He has to be pushing this narrative for someone. Especially when he feels “compelled” to write a full article on it.
August 30, 20205 yr Author Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Especially when he feels “compelled” to write a full article on it. We have multiple reporters saying they are talking, including rosenthal. Doesn’t mean it happens but clearly it isn’t made up.
August 30, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen. I hate to say this.....because it has been exciting......but this year truthfully doesn't really matter. This is one big preseason. 60 games, ridiculously uneven schedule, 7 inning doubleheaders, starting with a man on second in extra innings.... I hope they win as much as possible this year......but no matter what happens there will be a TRIPLE asterisk next to this season. I'm looking for the White Sox to be a powerhouse NEXT year. And if Clevinger then is only here two years?......I agree with you, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it either. I can see good and bad.
August 30, 20205 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen. It’s so hard to time starting pitching with contending. FA would be great, but we saw how even with Wheeler having the top offer didn’t guarantee getting them. Next years FA class kinda sucks, and we don’t know how the Sox will fare in a bidding war with Reinsdorf. Clevinger being available is about as good as we’ll find, and we are absolutely now contenders. We need to make sure we maximize what we know now and not be so concerned about 2025. We have 5 years to figure that out and draft/sign guys to prepare.
August 30, 20205 yr Author Just now, Soxsi75 said: I hate to say this.....because it has been exciting......but this year truthfully doesn't really matter. This is one big preseason. 60 games, ridiculously uneven schedule, 7 inning doubleheaders, starting with a man on second in extra innings.... I hope they win as much as possible this year......but no matter what happens there will be a TRIPLE asterisk next to this season. I'm looking for the White Sox to be a powerhouse NEXT year. And if Clevinger then is only here two years?......I agree with you, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it either. I can see good and bad. Think it’s time sox fans stop getting as excited about counting contract years and start thinking about making each of the next five years as close to guaranteed playoffs as possible.
August 30, 20205 yr Rangers get Kopech and Flores Indians get Gallo Sox get Clevinger If it happened, that's my guess.
August 30, 20205 yr if we deal kopech + to Cleveland... if you guys thought I was overly reactionary and obnoxious in game threads, you might have to put me in time out for this shit
August 30, 20205 yr Just now, bmags said: Think it’s time sox fans stop getting as excited about counting contract years and start thinking about making each of the next five years as close to guaranteed playoffs as possible. I agree if Clevinger will be here 5 years. But if he walks in 2 and Kopech is haunting us after that, then we aren't guaranteeing the playoffs for 5 years. We'd be actually hurting ourselves. That's what makes this tough.
August 30, 20205 yr With how good Cleveland is with pitchers, Kopech might as well be Jacob deGrom for the next 5 years with them.
August 30, 20205 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Rangers get Kopech and Flores Indians get Gallo Sox get Clevinger If it happened, that's my guess. Indians gotta get something more here but guessing you are talking main oueces
August 30, 20205 yr Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? Edited August 30, 20205 yr by SouthWallace
August 30, 20205 yr 21 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: Olney saying Cleveland is dead set on moving Clevinger fyi No surprise. Only reason they brought him back was to show he was healthy.
August 30, 20205 yr Author 3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? Yes.
August 30, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? No
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