caulfield12 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) They're not trading Robert F/OR Bieber...no way. Edited August 30, 2020 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Keeping James McCann around SOMEHOW is looking more and more attractive. It's such an interesting argument, but you can cut what, $20 million from next year's budget by letting guys like Rodon go, along with those on expiring contracts or options like EE, Gio G, Mazara, Leury Garcia, Fry, etc. Robert got himself out there. Let's go Mendick! Need to start to put this game a bit closer to out of reach instead of letting the Royals hang around....which turned out not so well yesterday. $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$. Jerry is poor tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I would not trade with Cleveland. Just try to get a minor deal done with some team outside the division. Just let this wasted season play out. Covid still could play havoc with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: $20 million? It's close to $50 million. McCann and Colome is like $15 million. Decline the options on EE, Cishek and Gio and it's another $25 million. Non-tender Rodon and Mazara for another $10 million or so. They should have plenty of $$. Plus Herrera’s salary will be gone as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Plus Herrera’s salary will be gone as well. Yeah but everyone else slowly goes up. It really depends on whether JR really says "Cut payroll compared to this year" or not, which will depend on a whole lot of things in the offseason. If JR gives that command, then even if all of those things happen, they won't have much to spend, and if they took salary on right now they'd have nothing to spend without moving someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah but everyone else slowly goes up. It really depends on whether JR really says "Cut payroll compared to this year" or not, which will depend on a whole lot of things in the offseason. If JR gives that command, then even if all of those things happen, they won't have much to spend, and if they took salary on right now they'd have nothing to spend without moving someone. I’ve run the numbers and at a $140M payroll (slightly above league average), we should have $35M to work with and that’s assuming we bring back Rodon & Lopez as bullpen arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ben Waffleson said: The bullpen is going right now.. Dunning is dealing today, maybe hes about to be pulled for a trade? He is still ramping up on pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’ve run the numbers and at a $140M payroll (slightly above league average), we should have $35M to work with and that’s assuming we bring back Rodon & Lopez as bullpen arms. So you're projecting that Jerry Reinsdorf will approve a payroll increase of $20 million next year compared to the payroll on paper this year? I mean, he could. He could also demand a $20 million payroll cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, greg775 said: I would not trade with Cleveland. Just try to get a minor deal done with some team outside the division. Just let this wasted season play out. Covid still could play havoc with it. I think the OP is wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. Edited August 30, 2020 by EloyJenkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: So you're projecting that Jerry Reinsdorf will approve a payroll increase of $20 million next year compared to the payroll on paper this year? I mean, he could. He could also demand a $20 million payroll cut. Lol...he’s not cutting payroll. He may be crying poor right now, but the reality is we don’t have the same fixed cost structure that a lot of teams do and can better survive the loss of revenue from no fan attendance. We’ll have to wait and see if he actually goes up to $140M, but I have zero concerns that he’ll actually make cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. That's true. But if I were an owner I wouldn't be counting on huge crowds and lots of profit until everything gets cleared up. Covid has shut down a country six months and counting and isn't over yet. Social issues are huge and we don't know anything about safety in cities right now. There's a lot of stuff going on that has to be fixed before sports is guaranteed to continue being a big moneymaker for billionaires. Edited August 30, 2020 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: 🤣 Hahn laughs loudly before hanging up the phone. Yeah, he's been there and done th "Ain't Gonna Make that same mistake again". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, GradMc said: Yeah, he's been there and done that "Ain't Gonna Make that same mistake again". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: One thing of note: Sox attendance next season should be STELLAR. combination of people finally able to go out once vaccine arrives and this team being in part of their 5-6 year run, revenue coming in is about to skyrocket starting next season. Payroll should not be an issue. The problem is we have no idea if fans will be at games next year at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Dear lord, could you imagine a rotation of Giolito, Keuchel, Cease, Clevinger, and Dunning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Engle out....I know Mazara pinch hit bc of a righty but let’s get nuts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 So Rosenthal latest in the Athletic, mentions Indians really do want a power hitting OFer and there isn’t a match there with sox. Mentioned how Indians have successfully brought in third team for most recent trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 So...if this happens my hypothesis is Sox bring in Dodgers since Hahn seems to be able to work with Friedman on complex deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They're not trading Robert F/OR Bieber...no way. Robert is a 6 WAR CF making an AAV of 11m for the next 7 years. There's literally no one id trade him for, not even Trout (due to the ages and contracts of both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Kopech has izzues up the yang-yang. I do that trade in a heart-beat. Clevinger 2 hours ago, hogan873 said: Dear lord, could you imagine a rotation of Giolito, Keuchel, Cease, Clevinger, and Dunning? Kopech has izzues up the yang-yang. Dombrowski knew it too. If surrendering Kopech gets it done, I would do that trade in a heartbeat. Clevinger would become at least #2 pitcher Edited August 30, 2020 by GradMc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Robert is a 6 WAR CF making an AAV of 11m for the next 7 years. There's literally no one id trade him for, not even Trout (due to the ages and contracts of both). Wouldn’t even trade him for Tatis given no extension and positional need on the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 A three way trade with Texas and Cleveland with Gallo and Clevinger could make sense. CLE could be motivated to move him and they could use more offense, trading from a position of strength. Then send prospects from both sides to TEX. Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 How long would we be in control of Clevinger's contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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