December 2, 20205 yr With the tone from Rodon's wife, I would be kind of surprised if we re-engage him, I wouldn't mind a cheap deal for Mazara.
December 2, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: With the tone from Rodon's wife, I would be kind of surprised if we re-engage him, I wouldn't mind a cheap deal for Mazara. Why would you want Mazara back?
December 2, 20205 yr Just now, fathom said: Why would you want Mazara back? He's not my first choice for sure. But that boat has probably sailed.
December 2, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, RagahRagah said: That should be a good sign. It's definitely not a bad sign. This board would have melted down if Mazara was tendered. I wouldn't mind him back as cheap insurance but tendering him would have signaled that the Sox aren't going to spend on a RF.
December 2, 20205 yr Really wish it worked for Los. You could see it in fits and starts but it never came together. Hope he has a good career in the NL.
December 2, 20205 yr Rodon, Fulmer, Cease and Lopez should pose with Cooper in a pic like the 2005 guys did.
December 2, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Rodon, Fulmer, Cease and Lopez should pose with Cooper in a pic like the 2005 guys did. Wow...kick 'em while they're down.?
December 2, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Rodon, Fulmer, Cease and Lopez should pose with Cooper in a pic like the 2005 guys did. Hold on, you've already given up on Cease? ?
December 2, 20205 yr Given that Mazara still is young and talented, I wouldn't mind him around on a minor league deal and as an injury reserve for Eloy and whoever our new RF is. But I'm guessing some team will give him a starting chance first. I don't know what Rodon was going to make but he wasn't and isn't worth it until he proves he can succeed. Yeah, he's had injuries, but when he is healthy he hasn't been great. For a lower price, I would love to see if he can put it together now that his major injuries are (hopefully) behind him.
December 2, 20205 yr Rodon will go to the Astros and only throw fastballs and sliders while improving his spin rate by 20%
December 2, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Rodon will go to the Astros and only throw fastballs and sliders while improving his spin rate by 20% Pine tar:)
December 2, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Hold on, you've already given up on Cease? ? No, but the inability of Cooper to get anything out of these guys is infuriating.
December 2, 20205 yr 22 minutes ago, fathom said: No, but the inability of Cooper to get anything out of these guys is infuriating. You really assign that much value to a pitching coach? Rodon was constantly hurt. Fulmer was flaming out in the minors. Cease is still a kid and Lopez always had red flags and a live arm. Cooper's obviously a mixed bag, but I wouldn't look at any of those 4 pitchers and place the blame on a single person as their issues were all unique. Hell, Cooper spent so little time with Fulmer that he probably doesn't remember his name.
December 2, 20205 yr Mazara will probably kick around the MLB for another year as a part time player and then try his luck in Korea/Japan. Carlos's arm just might be done at this point, he's had two major surgeries and he's barely in his late 20s.
December 2, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: You really assign that much value to a pitching coach? Rodon was constantly hurt. Fulmer was flaming out in the minors. Cease is still a kid and Lopez always had red flags and a live arm. Cooper's obviously a mixed bag, but I wouldn't look at any of those 4 pitchers and place the blame on a single person as their issues were all unique. Hell, Cooper spent so little time with Fulmer that he probably doesn't remember his name. It’s his job to get the most out of the pitchers. I felt he tried too hard to make every pitcher into the same type of guy.
December 2, 20205 yr 42 minutes ago, fathom said: Rodon, Fulmer, Cease and Lopez should pose with Cooper in a pic like the 2005 guys did. One of these does not belong.
December 2, 20205 yr 54 minutes ago, fathom said: Why would you want Mazara back? I’d take him back at like $2.5M to serve as a backup in the corners and partial DH option, but doubt he’d go for that.
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