December 7, 20205 yr You could probably fill out the best tools section in your sleep. https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/1026/chicago-white-sox/organizational/?year=2021&type=P Pretty chalk which is fine 1. Vaughn 2. Kopech 3. Madrigal 4. Dunning 5. Crochet 6. Kelley 7. Thompson 8. Stiever 9. Dalquist 10. l Gonzalez I think I'm going Thompson over Dalquist, but i'm sure for them these lists are pretty hard with little to go off of.
December 7, 20205 yr Author I'll give one cool note on vaughn: "When Vaughn joined the White Sox, the team wanted to install a concrete, day-to-day routine that would help him manage the grind of professional baseball. He settled on one that featured a front-flip drill designed to keep his legs underneath him during his swing, and evaluators inside the organization say it has helped him become a better hitter. Vaughn does an excellent job keeping his upper and lower halves synced throughout the course of his swing."
December 7, 20205 yr I saw enough last year from both to put Crochet 3rd and feel comfortable with it.
December 7, 20205 yr Author The list is pretty what you'd expect but those with BA subscriptions, the scouting reports are really great. Clearly lots of stuff pulled from Schaumburg, and it makes sense all the hitters and pitchers in top ten were there. Here is one last tid bit on Thompson, whom they call "the best athlete in the system": "Thompson’s fastball now sits 92-95 mph and touches 97 with carry through the strike zone. He’s always shown an advanced feel to spin the ball, and now his curveball is a bona fide plus pitch in the low 80s with better-defined break. His changeup is a clear third pitch but flashes average. Thompson’s whippy arm action limits his control to fringe-average, but he throws enough strikes to project a starter."
December 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Crochet should be number 1. Sue me Agreed. I've always said he'd have been a 1-1 candidate with a full NCAA baseball season.
December 7, 20205 yr Author One other thing is it pretty much puts stiever at what we saw now, 92-93. I'm going to guess that's not just majors but also what he was in Schaumburg considering so much of the other reports were based on schaumburg notes.
December 7, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, fathom said: I saw enough last year from both to put Crochet 3rd and feel comfortable with it. I’d personally flip Crochet and Nick and then also flip 1 and 2 but that’s personal preference.
December 7, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Crochet should be number 1. Sue me He certainly should be ahead of Dunning and Madrigal. His ceiling is a legitimate Ace, best pitcher on the planet. Not sure how they factor injury risk into these rankings but if you don't factor in injury risk, his floor is a lights out back-end of the bullpen arm.
December 7, 20205 yr 34 minutes ago, bmags said: One other thing is it pretty much puts stiever at what we saw now, 92-93. I'm going to guess that's not just majors but also what he was in Schaumburg considering so much of the other reports were based on schaumburg notes. That's what he always was before that crazy jump he made last year. Like I said in the other thread it makes no sense that they exposed him this year knowing his stuff was that far down. They destroyed his value.
December 7, 20205 yr Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: That's what he always was before that crazy jump he made last year. Like I said in the other thread it makes no sense that they exposed him this year knowing his stuff was that far down. They destroyed his value. They were desperate for pitchers at the point they brought him up. I don't think it was a want to more than a have to.
December 7, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They were desperate for pitchers at the point they brought him up. I don't think it was a want to more than a have to. ^^^^
December 7, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They were desperate for pitchers at the point they brought him up. I don't think it was a want to more than a have to. They're never that desparate to expose a prospect who was clearly not ready. They could have done a bullpen game or started Flores, Lopez or some other bum in Schaumburg. The FO made a horrible decision and it's going to hurt them this off season.
December 7, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They're never that desparate to expose a prospect who was clearly not ready. They could have done a bullpen game or started Flores, Lopez or some other bum in Schaumburg. The FO made a horrible decision and it's going to hurt them this off season. Yep could have just used Flores to pitch batting practice to the Reds.
December 7, 20205 yr This list just reminds me what a sick draft we had this year. Pitching is volatile and all that, but kind of amazing we may have ended up with two top-10 type players in one draft.
December 7, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, 35thstreetswarm said: This list just reminds me what a sick draft we had this year. Pitching is volatile and all that, but kind of amazing we may have ended up with two top-10 type players in one draft. Teams really overthought it with Kelley
December 7, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They're never that desparate to expose a prospect who was clearly not ready. They could have done a bullpen game or started Flores, Lopez or some other bum in Schaumburg. The FO made a horrible decision and it's going to hurt them this off season. They did use Lopez. They had nine different starters in 60 games.
December 7, 20205 yr Crochet #1 no way for me. He pitched 9 innings and couldn’t stay healthy. Love his stuff, but his health scares the crap out me (Shoulder and elbow). Hate to be a downer, but TJ is in his future.
December 7, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Crochet #1 no way for me. He pitched 9 innings and couldn’t stay healthy. Love his stuff, but his health scares the crap out me (Shoulder and elbow). Hate to be a downer, but TJ is in his future. He's a newer, shinier, pre-Tommy-Johnnier version of Kopech. Loves me some Crochet, but Kopech is still ahead of him in my book.
December 7, 20205 yr I'd have it 1. Vaughn 2. Kopech 3. Crochet 4. Madrigal 5. Kelley 6. Dunning 7. Dalquist 8. Stiever 9. Thompson. Vera is in here too as soon as that becomes official.
December 7, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I'd have it 1. Vaughn 2. Kopech 3. Crochet 4. Madrigal 5. Kelley 6. Dunning 7. Dalquist 8. Stiever 9. Thompson. Vera is in here too as soon as that becomes official. If we get Colas is he in there too?
December 7, 20205 yr Author Man I am excited to see our HS guys in the minors this year. I hope Kanny includes Dalquist, Thompson and Kelley.
December 7, 20205 yr That's still a pretty deep top ten. Granted 5 of those guys are like a couple weeks from being pulled off the list, but still.
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