28 minutes ago, South Sider said:

Dude, what? Kurt Suzuki is an FA? If he's cool being a backup, please sign him! 

Yeah man!  And from what I can tell for only $1.5-3m per.

2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I don't think the first part is true.  If multiple teams are offering 4 years why not wait it out for a higher AAV?  If you're the guy at the top of the market there's no reason to rush it. 

The second part is nauseating.  

He hasn't been offered 4 years yet to my knowledge 

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Ok, but why commit to 2022 when there will be starters taking one year deals?

I would think our results with the types of pitchers who take one years deals would speak for themselves, but to each their own.

So with Crochet likely starting off in the mode of 2017 Hader (multiple innings a few times a week), it makes me even more opinionated that a huge contract for Hendriks would be a bad use of resources.

Back to Hendricks and the pen...

Upon first hearing this possibility I considered that with Hendricks fillling a power late inning reliever role, that maybe it gives the Sox the option to make Crochet available for the rotation if he proves able. I'm making premature assumptions on that through. So...is Crochet a bullpen piece right now because that is how they are seasoning him on the way to eventually working his way into a starter role? Or, is he considered a permanent bullpen piece and potential closer? If he is a bullpen arm that is going to be one scary bullpen.

Edited December 18, 20205 yr by SpringfieldFan

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

I would think our results with the types of pitchers who take one years deals would speak for themselves, but to each their own.

Wait what?  In this market?  Plenty of dudes will be taking one year deals.  Weren’t you just clamoring for Kluber?  Paxton will be taking a one year deal.  Richards could be an option.

1 minute ago, SpringfieldFan said:

Back to Hendricks and the pen...

Upon first hearing this possibility I considered that with Hendricks fillling a power late inning reliever role, that maybe it gives the Sox the option to make Crochet available for the rotation if he proves able. I'm making premature assumptions on that through. So...is Crochet a bullpen piece right now because that is how they are seasoning him on the way to eventually working his way into a starter role. Or, is he considered a permanent bullpen piece and potential closer? If he is a bullpen arm that is going to be one scary bullpen.

Seems to me they’re replicating the Sale plan with him. With that said, him having health issues after a few weeks didn’t exactly make them feel comfortable with him being a starter.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

So with Crochet likely starting off in the mode of 2017 Hader (multiple innings a few times a week), it makes me even more opinionated that a huge contract for Hendriks would be a bad use of resources.

Then what are we spending our money on?

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Wait what?  In this market?  Plenty of dudes will be taking one year deals.  Weren’t you just clamoring for Kluber?  Paxton will be taking a one year deal.  Richards could be an option.

You have way more faith than I do.  This franchise seems to be going out of their way to screw this up.  Honestly I am waiting for Wainwright and Yadi and then calling it an offseason.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Then what are we spending our money on?

Tony’s lawyers, duh!  I’m hoping for the Yates, Richards and Schwarber trio personally

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Then what are we spending our money on?

trash.  Just like we have been.  Settling for 2nd and 3rd bests, instead of top quality. 

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

You have way more faith than I do.  This franchise seems to be going out of their way to screw this up.  Honestly I am waiting for Wainwright and Yadi and then calling it an offseason.

And both of those would be good additions in all honesty.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

You have way more faith than I do.  This franchise seems to be going out of their way to screw this up.  Honestly I am waiting for Wainwright and Yadi and then calling it an offseason.

So you’d be upset with Kluber on a one year deal then?

1 minute ago, fathom said:

And both of those would be good additions in all honesty.

I want nothing to do with Yadi.  Waino as I've said before does seem to make a lot of sense, especially with the way the Sox are doing business right now.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

So you’d be upset with Kluber on a one year deal then?

Kluber would be better than a lot of what they could do.  There has also been zero connection to him by the Sox.

Just now, Rowand44 said:

I want nothing to do with Yadi.  Waino as I've said before does seem to make a lot of sense, especially with the way the Sox are doing business right now.

I get the Yadi hate, trust me. I can see how they would talk themselves into using him more as catcher and Grandal at DH until Vaughn is ready.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Tony’s lawyers, duh!  I’m hoping for the Yates, Richards and Schwarber trio personally

I’d rather have Hendriks, Richards, & LaStella if those are my two options.

11 minutes ago, fathom said:

Seems to me they’re replicating the Sale plan with him. With that said, him having health issues after a few weeks didn’t exactly make them feel comfortable with him being a starter.

Sale plan doesn't make sense for him. He doesn't have enough innings. Sale had full college seasons worth of innings. 

8 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Sale plan doesn't make sense for him. He doesn't have enough innings. Sale had full college seasons worth of innings. 

I agree but it seems the Sox brass doesn’t. Between what Katz said yesterday and Eric today, I think he’s in the bullpen to start the year.

1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said:

I agree with you but it could go sideways for him. Let's say his hypothetical market is the Mets, Sox, Angels, and Nationals. If the Mets and Nationals sign Colome and Yates tomorrow, he has no time to re-evaluate. If it is down to the Sox and Angels, they may even reduce their offers to 2 or 3 years. 

I think you're a little light on his market.  You can add the Dodgers, Giants, Phillies, Blue Jays and Astros. I get what you're saying but I don't think he has to worry about being the reliever left standing without a chair. 

3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

I think you're a little light on his market.  You can add the Dodgers, Giants, Phillies, Blue Jays and Astros. I get what you're saying but I don't think he has to worry about being the reliever left standing without a chair. 

I’ve seen a few places state that none of the closers will sign until Hendriks does.

Edited December 18, 20205 yr by fathom

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

I agree but it seems the Sox brass doesn’t. Between what Katz said yesterday and Eric today, I think he’s in the bullpen to start the year.

sounds like it. What a bunch of fucking idiots. He's gonna blow out in the bullpen.

Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said:

sounds like it. What a bunch of fucking idiots. He's gonna blow out in the bullpen.

Welcome to “all in”

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Welcome to “all in”

LOL. All in in a major market with a $113 million payroll 

29 minutes ago, fathom said:

I get the Yadi hate, trust me.

I honestly don’t. I’ve seen numerous people mention they hate him. Why?