Matz to the Cards @ 4/44 - hummm interesting.

2 hours ago, hi8is said:

Matz to the Cards @ 4/44 - hummm interesting.

Wow, he blew MLBTR’s 3/$27M projection out of the water.

11 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

I am thinking they will get Matz and than Scherzer and if not Scherzer will try for Rodon and others. I expect them to land 3 big name free agent starting pitchers.  

They will need to replace Matz on the wishlist. 

 

19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Wow, he blew MLBTR’s 3/$27M projection out of the water.

It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected.  Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates.

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected.  Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates.

Rodon now becomes the pitching mystery to watch of the offseason, along with Scherzer, Gausman and Kershaw…and, of course, the Kimbrel trade.

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2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It seems to me that anyone who has signed early is getting more then expected.  Verlander, Graveman, Matz , Loup, DeSclafani and Syndergaard all higher than Fangraphs estimates.

This is mostly true on the MLBTR side of things, although DeSclafani & Graveman in below expectations in terms of AAV.

Say what you will about Jerry, but the fact he doesn’t tweet is >>>>>

 

Cohen is pretty douchey.

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@bmags - Who is he talking about by the way?

Nevermind:

 

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

Say what you will about Jerry, but the fact he doesn’t tweet is >>>>>

 

I'm still amazed people thought this guy would be a good owner. 

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Nevermind:

 

I know folks like to fall back on the "biggest offer wins", but what if this is one of those situations where Matz saw what St. Louis offered as an organization (chance at winning, clubhouse identity, etc) and decided "you know what, I've seen enough of the Mets and want to move on, so a matching or close offer isn't worth discussing."

Cohen may feel jilted, but could be Matz wasn't going to seriously consider coming back after seeing what else was out there.

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Cohen is pretty douchey.

This is like saying Ted Bundy was kind of a bad guy. 

Pretty funny the Mets have now been blown off by 2 ex players. Not a great look! 

Maybe instead of relying on matching you make him the offer that gets him to stay?

26 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Cohen is pretty douchey.

He's way beyond that.

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

Maybe instead of relying on matching you make him the offer that gets him to stay?

Exactly.  The Mets aren’t some small market team and they weren’t the incumbent.  They did not deserve a right to match and shouldn’t have banked on one if they really wanted Matz.

 

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Man Cohen is still blabbing to every baseball writer who will listen. Shut the hell up.

The nice info is it seems by merely flattering Cohen telling him Matz wanted to stay with NYM, it coaxed an offer out of him when they were otherwise not in pursuit. Nice playbook for other agents.

"Hi Steve, my player really just wants to play with the mets. He loves your aggressive style, he thinks you are a visionary, you are our plan A and B. What do you say?"

56 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

He's way beyond that.

Unfamiliar with him… what’s the scoop?

26 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Unfamiliar with him… what’s the scoop?

The dirtiest of dirty on wall street which is saying something.

31 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The dirtiest of dirty on wall street which is saying something.

Deep rot.

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Down for the Mets and Yankmes now.

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Rodon now becomes the pitching mystery to watch of the offseason, along with Scherzer, Gausman and Kershaw…and, of course, the Kimbrel trade.

I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Sox.

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Sox.

I hope you’re right and we also add another SP via trade while later dumping Dallas.

6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I've thought all along that Rodon is the starting pitcher most likely to end up on the Cubs