May 25, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, T R U said: This is what happens when you let the mother fuckers who sunk the team in the first place lead the rebuild. I suspect we're ultimately saying the same thing, but I'd say they did quite well leading the rebuild. It's the handling of any team that's not losing on purpose that they completely fail at.
May 25, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Don't care whether or not this team can make the playoffs. This team can't win in the playoffs. Would make Jimenez, Velaszuez, Keuchel, Pollock, Harrison, Sheets and Burger all available. Look to acquire at least two LH bats with good OBP and controlled through at least 2024. Anybody in the minors except Ramos, Rodriguez, Montgomery, Colas, Vera and Sanchez can be used to get those LH bats. Edited May 25, 20223 yr by CentralChamps21
May 25, 20223 yr Just now, CentralChamps21 said: Don't care whether or not this team can make the playoffs. This team can't win in the playoffs. Would make Jimenez, Velaszuez, Keuchel, Pollock and Harrison all available. Look to acquire at least two LH bats with good OBP and controlled through at least 2024. Anybody in the minors except Ramos, Rodriguez, Montgomery, Colas, Vera and Sanchez can be used to get those LH bats. Why does everyone think that the rest of baseball wants our garbage for their treasures? No one is trading anything of value for Josh Harrison, Vince V, or Dallas for sure. Pollock and Eloy will be hugely discounted on the trade market as well.
May 25, 20223 yr Just now, southsider2k5 said: Why does everyone think that the rest of baseball wants our garbage for their treasures? No one is trading anything of value for Josh Harrison, Vince V, or Dallas for sure. Pollock and Eloy will be hugely discounted on the trade market as well. Not saying we will get anything for most of those guys. Let them go for salary relief and a minor league bullpen arm that needs a change of scenery, except for Eloy.
May 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Why does everyone think that the rest of baseball wants our garbage for their treasures? No one is trading anything of value for Josh Harrison, Vince V, or Dallas for sure. Pollock and Eloy will be hugely discounted on the trade market as well. Imagine Hahn on the phone with a GM: "Josh Harrison, Dallas Keuchel and VV are available for the right price."
May 25, 20223 yr I can't see the White Sox making a meaningful trade unless they want to give up on this rebuild. With luck, maybe a veteran pitcher can be picked up at the deadline. But I don't even expect that.
May 25, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, ron883 said: Imagine Hahn on the phone with a GM: "Josh Harrison, Dallas Keuchel and VV are available for the right price." Right...all DFA candidates.
May 25, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: Don't care whether or not this team can make the playoffs. This team can't win in the playoffs. Would make Jimenez, Velaszuez, Keuchel, Pollock, Harrison, Sheets and Burger all available. Look to acquire at least two LH bats with good OBP and controlled through at least 2024. Anybody in the minors except Ramos, Rodriguez, Montgomery, Colas, Vera and Sanchez can be used to get those LH bats. You take all those guys off the table and we don't have a lot to deal.
May 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: You take all those guys off the table and we don't have a lot to deal. There only guy on that list that the Sox should consider being untouchable is Montgomery. Vera hasn't even pitched so he's not going to be in trade talks. Rodriguez has cratered his value with his poor start. Sanchez is probably a utility guy.
May 25, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: You take all those guys off the table and we don't have a lot to deal. OK, the first three then.
May 25, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, raBBit said: There only guy on that list that the Sox should consider being untouchable is Montgomery. Vera hasn't even pitched so he's not going to be in trade talks. Rodriguez has cratered his value with his poor start. Sanchez is probably a utility guy. Probably right about Sanchez. Would still love for him to get a chance over Harrison/Leury.
May 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, T R U said: Nothing could make this season worse than the Sox continuing to struggle and Rick Hahn being allowed to waste assets to try and salvage a season when we don't have the ammo to add anything that's going to change the world overnight. and you just know that's what will happen.
May 25, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, fathom said: You joke but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that this team is in the position to sell I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I necessarily mind, if there was a re-tooling. But I don't trust the folks in charge, including TLR, to do it right.
May 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Yeah I’m definitely open to a re-tooling. How are they going to re-tool? Which position players have value other than Anderson, Robert and Vaughn?
May 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: How are they going to re-tool? Which position players have value other than Anderson, Robert and Vaughn? We'll see how the rest of the season goes.
May 25, 20223 yr 35 minutes ago, raBBit said: There only guy on that list that the Sox should consider being untouchable is Montgomery. Vera hasn't even pitched so he's not going to be in trade talks. Rodriguez has cratered his value with his poor start. Sanchez is probably a utility guy. Lenyn Sosa though... Love what he's done so far. I'd imagine his value has jumped a bit.
May 25, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, fathom said: You joke but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that this team is in the position to sell Look at all the years the Sox were in "buy" mode when they were a garbage team. I feel there's no way they sell this year.
May 25, 20223 yr There were a plethora of talented free agents available in the winter and now because Hahn wasn't creative enough and/or JR refused to open up his wallet, the attention goes to the trade deadline. This team is super flawed and it is Hahn's fault for ignoring the glaring needs during the winter. I've seen enough of the Josh Harrison/ Leury combo platter at 2B. I've seen enough of the revolving door in RF. Hahn deserves to be fired. Sadly, that won't happen. The front office, Steve Stone and TLR will continue to call out Sox fans for being frustrated at the current product and performance. How dare us!!
May 25, 20223 yr Anderson will be 32 when he needs a new contract. I'm honestly not sure a team with self-imposed budgetary constraints should be re-signing him. If they're doing a re-tool he should be on the table. They're stuck with Moncada/Eloy/Grandal for the remainder of their deals. Edited May 25, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman
May 25, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I noticed this too looking at the schedule. From that first Red Sox to like mid-June was probably our toughest stretch of the season. After that, it's mostly ALC teams the rest of the way. Edited May 25, 20223 yr by Bob Sacamano
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