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GT 7/5: MIN @ SOX, The day after

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6 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

I want someone from an organization that is used to contending on a strict budget. 

Oakland does a decent job of building up, tearing down, and rebuilding in cycles. They're in a rebuild right now. 

Do what the Ray's do. Living in Florida I watch almost every Rays game, they have to have the best scouts and player evaluation people ever. Every year they trade off a star but get back a guy who becomes a stud, the Austin Meadows to Detroit trade for Issac Peredes is a perfect example. They also have a manager that isn't comatose. 

It's obvious now for a year that the Sox are a .500 ball club, they will drive you insane as they are world beaters in one series and look like the 1970 White Sox in the next series. Changes are needed, I see no untouchables on this team. 

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    I'm at the lowest point of my fandom as an adult. That's all. A very solipsistic view but one I'm sure is shared by quite a few people around 30-50.

The twins built a team similar to Cleveland.  Almost specifically to beat the white sox.  Lot of RHP. 

1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Do what the Ray's do. Living in Florida I watch almost every Rays game, they have to have the best scouts and player evaluation people ever. Every year they trade off a star but get back a guy who becomes a stud, the Austin Meadows to Detroit trade for Issac Peredes is a perfect example. They also have a manager that isn't comatose. 

It's obvious now for a year that the Sox are a .500 ball club, they will drive you insane as they are world beaters in one series and look like the 1970 White Sox in the next series. Changes are needed, I see no untouchables on this team. 

Steal FO talent from them. 

The biggest coup in baseball was the Dodgers luring Andrew Friedman away from Tampa. Now he's got the team being run like the Rays in scouting/player development AND has a basically unlimited budget. 

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13 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Steal FO talent from them. 

The biggest coup in baseball was the Dodgers luring Andrew Friedman away from Tampa. Now he's got the team being run like the Rays in scouting/player development AND has a basically unlimited budget. 

Even if you aren't willing to pay a premium for FO guys from Tampa or other places, invest a little bit in an analytics department and listen to them.

Anybody with an understanding of basic statistics and some baseball knowledge can run correlations on dozens of stats and identify the most successful characteristics of players. The Sox either aren't doing this or are completely ignoring the data.

Numerous posters here have noted that a high ground ball rate correlates very negatively to scoring runs, and a low strikeout rate has almost no correlation, but the Sox continue to operate as if they're entirely unaware of this.

8 hours ago, maloney.adam said:

That would’ve been awesome. 

It could be awesome still

13 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Even if you aren't willing to pay a premium for FO guys from Tampa or other places, invest a little bit in an analytics department and listen to them.

Anybody with an understanding of basic statistics and some baseball knowledge can run correlations on dozens of stats and identify the most successful characteristics of players. The Sox either aren't doing this or are completely ignoring the data.

Numerous posters here have noted that a high ground ball rate correlates very negatively to scoring runs, and a low strikeout rate has almost no correlation, but the Sox continue to operate as if they're entirely unaware of this.

Based on what I've seen about baseball in practice (there may or may not be evidence for this) I think there may be a natural strikeout rate for a player/team and that any attempt to lower that rate results in giving away outs, and hurting your offense. 

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54 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Steal FO talent from them. 

The biggest coup in baseball was the Dodgers luring Andrew Friedman away from Tampa. Now he's got the team being run like the Rays in scouting/player development AND has a basically unlimited budget. 

The magic words are unlimited budget.

6 hours ago, Chimpton said:

I'm not sure anyone would go for that trade, a bucket of popcorn may be a bit high an asking price.

Popcorn has appeal.  Rick Hahn’s best quality has to be the ability to sound like he’s giving you useful info w/o saying anything of substance.  Which is really only appealing if you need a PR front to give a shitty org cover in the media. 

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