1 minute ago, almagest said:

The Harrison magic he had going for a little while there is wearing off.

Big Energy drinks always wear off

Great to see Robert laying off enough junk to draw a walk there

Bieber is one of those few elite pitchers who can get by at 91-92. 

It's the difference of having a great breaking pitching pitch to go with it. 

Lucas Giolito better figure out his breaking pitch soon if he plans to cash in on a long term deal somewhere. 

 

I'd bet this team could not swing first pitch ever and have a 1-0 count like 2/3rds of the time.

I've read about hitters like Marcus Semien & Schwarber using high speed pitching machines to improve results against sliders. See them over & over in BP/training and eventually they got much better at hitting them. I honestly wonder if the Sox have any of their hitters working with tools like that. It certainly doesn't see that way.

Much better ABs this inning. Make em pay, Jose.

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by maxjusttyped

Sure is heartening seeing Eloy taking his walks lately.

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by DirtySox

Make Bieber pay for walks 

Not a fucking strike, Jose

2 AB's for Jose and he's swung at sliders way out of the zone on the 1st pitch both times

Dang it.  Right guy.  

Abreu chases a slider off the plate after two straight walks. Just the dumbest team in baseball.

So ridiculous 

Walk-walk- swing at a ball 3 inches low and 6 inches outside.....White Sox 

Just now, Harry Chappas said:

Walk-walk- swing at a ball 3 inches low and 6 inches outside.....White Sox 

Gotta love the two strike approach on a 0-0 count

Often when this team struggles offensively, Jose presses trying to do too much and really expands his zone.  Very frustrating.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Gotta love the two strike approach on a 0-0 count

Organizational philosophy for 20+ years

18 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

He's going to be a 4 win player but it doesn't count because he doesn't hit enough HR's.

Or make good contact while getting a lot of hits while playing decent defense or running the bases well. The only thing that counts in being a very good player is BABIP "luck" which in good hitters isn't really luck at all which some people who like to use BABIP never understand.

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Or make good contact while getting a lot of hits while playing decent defense or running the bases well. The only thing that counts in being a very good player is BABIP "luck" which in good hitters isn't really luck at all which some people who like to use BABIP never understand.

Kwan will likely always have BABIP luck due to how he can spray the ball around the field 

Cueto Just continues to get the job done, Giolito needs to take some lessons.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Kwan will likely always have BABIP luck due to how he can spray the ball around the field 

His quality of contact is awful. Just like Madrigal.

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Kwan will likely always have BABIP luck due to how he can spray the ball around the field 

Exactly what I was saying. I don't know how Kwan's career is going to go but guys like Carew, Gwynn, Boggs, Rose they master bat control, barrel it , go with pitches , balanced at the plate  hit it everywhere.

2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Or make good contact while getting a lot of hits while playing decent defense or running the bases well. The only thing that counts in being a very good player is BABIP "luck" which in good hitters isn't really luck at all which some people who like to use BABIP never understand.

I think players who have extreme skillsets generally get undervalued for whatever reason. It's easy to look at someone like Kwan, or Gallo on the other extreme, and fixate on what they don't do well to make the argument they aren't actually good players. But at the end of the day, production is production, and Kwan is a very good hitter and well rounded player, like you said.

It's also not like he's running a .400 BABIP or anything. A .329 BABIP isn't unreasonable at all for someone with his bat control, speed, and batted ball profile.

Grandal just missed that…rocket off the bat.  It’s amazing how bad this offense is.

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

His quality of contact is awful. Just like Madrigal.

The the original post said he was a good player and all you keep talking about is hitting in your objection to him being a good player.