caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: I've never been a huge Cease fan. You can't have the amount of success that Cease did in 2022 consistently when you walk as many batters as he does. His true level of performance is closer to 2021 and 2023 than 2022 and offers in trade going forward and yesterday were probably based on that expectation. The offers will only get worse from here. 2022 was his career year, I doubt Cease gets anywhere close to that again. Also, if the Ks start going away then his value really craters. He was having a hard time striking hitters out in 2019-20. They might as well bring Reynaldo back and let him start again...kind of like that time they signed Derek Holland. Wonder what offers he will get as a 6th through 8th multiple inning reliever on the FA market...? Edited August 3, 2023 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 68 K's in 160 ABs for Zavala. Legendary hitting skills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Capn12 said: 68 K's in 160 ABs for Zavala. Legendary hitting skills. WTF is he doing in MLB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 If Cease has an ERA close to 5 at the end of the season, that almost forces the Sox to hold onto him until next July/August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Where's our Morel? How many players on the Sox would even start for the Cubs? Just Robert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 What a s%*# show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Capn12 said: I want so much, for Colas to succeed, but damn if he isn't hard to watch. I'm sure the organization has done fk all to help develop him, but still... Just the latest attempt to cheat the true scouting process with another shortcut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Also, wasn't the ball really dead last year? This could be what happens to Cease when the ball isn't dead as a doornail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 pitches, 3 batters, 3 outs...The Sox approach to hitting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, baseballgalaly said: Also, wasn't the ball really dead last year? This could be what happens to Cease when the ball isn't dead as a doornail. Ball doesn’t impact velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, baseballgalaly said: Also, wasn't the ball really dead last year? This could be what happens to Cease when the ball isn't dead as a doornail. Not for Judge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 This is what happens when veterans who wanted to get traded….don’t. It’s going to be so ugly the next few months. This organization should be ashamed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, fathom said: Ball doesn’t impact velocity I could see if he was a heavy sinker ball/two seamer guy but he tends to pitch up in the zone and allow lots of fly balls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, fathom said: How many players on the Sox would even start for the Cubs? Just Robert? Robert has no approach at the plate, it's all or nothing with him. I'd take Bellinger right now over Robert. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, A-Train to 35th said: Robert has no approach at the plate, it's all or nothing with him. I'd take Bellinger right now over Robert. Absolutely awful job by this organization to get things to this state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, fathom said: This is what happens when veterans who wanted to get traded….don’t. It’s going to be so ugly the next few months. This organization should be ashamed. Remillard and Burger have seemed like the only two guys who really cared...they should just flat out waive Grandal. You just KNOW he's not the most positive presence in the clubhouse right now...and the word is out all around the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFest23 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, fathom said: How many players on the Sox would even start for the Cubs? Just Robert? Just Robert, Cubs passed up the Sox quickly. Hahn built this team with glass bodies and quitters. Edited August 3, 2023 by SoxFest23 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, fathom said: This is what happens when veterans who wanted to get traded….don’t. It’s going to be so ugly the next few months. This organization should be ashamed. The organization just doesn’t care though. It’s so painfully obvious. The Vets don’t want to be there. That’s why I said earlier I’d much rather see a bunch of young kids than your Anderson’s, Grandals, Moncadas and Eloys half assing it everyday. Get what you could for them and move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Cease needs arm rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said: Robert has no approach at the plate, it's all or nothing with him. I'd take Bellinger right now over Robert. The problem is he's now a $25-27.5 million per year player. Statistically. Baseball Savant sees lots of conflicting info between 2019 MVP profile and 2023 in terms if how he reached those numbers....obviously health is part of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 11-0 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Benintendi and Suzuki are about even lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Lol did the Sox ask for this review?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just passed Tigers and Nats for runs scored differential. Rockies are really woeful. Seems Sox will pick third or fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, T R U said: Lol did the Sox ask for this review?? They need to go to the 10 run rule after 7 the last two months to protect bullpens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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