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Cease To Padres per Passan

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1 minute ago, Nardiwashere said:

Lol just say “yeah, I misspoke. I was wrong” 

how is someone “indirectly involved” in trade talks?

Doing background research on players from other teams would be an example.

 

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Chris Getz probably discovered recordings that Rick Hahn had in his office. Just like Nixon during the Watergate scandal. That's how he figured it out. 

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

No one is taking it personally.  In fact, your fans are the ones calling Elias names, wishing the Os ill will, etc..because he won’t take it up the ass in a deal for Cease.  They seem to be the ones taking it personally 

As a fan, you should want everything you can get. I’m not blaming you for that but that doesn’t mean you (not you you but general you) are being realistic in what Cease should get back.

Yea. I like our posters for the most part, but some of them are being petulant meatballs. You should see them in gamethreads. ?

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

No one is taking it personally.  In fact, your fans are the ones calling Elias names, wishing the Os ill will, etc..because he won’t take it up the ass in a deal for Cease.  They seem to be the ones taking it personally 

As a fan, you should want everything you can get. I’m not blaming you for that but that doesn’t mean you (not you you but general you) are being realistic in what Cease should get back.

What business is it of yours what White Sox fans want in return for Cease? Realistic or not, that’s what it is. Not your problem.

Just now, DirtySox said:

Yea. I like our posters for the most part, but some of them are being petulant meatballs. You should see them in gamethreads. ?

Our board has the same. All fan bases are like that.  I don’t hold it against anyone. 

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Doing background research on players from other teams would be an example.

 

You mean looking at Baseball America’s top 100 from three years ago 

1 minute ago, SkokieSox said:

What business is it of yours what White Sox fans want in return for Cease? Realistic or not, that’s what it is. Not your problem.

That’s fine…I don’t care. But you guys don’t have any issue saying it’s dumb if an Os fan wants to trade no more than Norby, Povich and Wagner for cease right?

So, if you are ok with saying Os fans are being absurd (and trust me, I agree that some are), why wouldn’t you be ok with the opposite?

Just now, Sports Guy said:

That’s fine…I don’t care. But you guys don’t have any issue saying it’s dumb if an Os fan wants to trade no more than Norby, Povich and Wagner for cease right?

So, if you are ok with saying Os fans are being absurd (and trust me, I agree that some are), why wouldn’t you be ok with the opposite?

By your own standard, would Elias be unreasonable to offer that deal? 

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

That’s fine…I don’t care. But you guys don’t have any issue saying it’s dumb if an Os fan wants to trade no more than Norby, Povich and Wagner for cease right?

So, if you are ok with saying Os fans are being absurd (and trust me, I agree that some are), why wouldn’t you be ok with the opposite?

I think this all devolves into one question. Who cares? They may be absurd we see it and laugh at it. We see absurd opinions on here we laugh. Who's hurt? 

6 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

By your own standard, would Elias be unreasonable to offer that deal? 

Absolutely.

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Absolutely.

I disagree 

54 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

@T R U was right.  This never ends well.  ?

It never does

30 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Right, so the whole idea that he’s waiting for one of those pitchers isn’t correct.

And the whole idea that he hasn’t gotten a deal i say is unreasonable is also correct because, as you said, any reasonable person would make that trade.

Nobody knows what is correct. And both  fanbases are unreasonable. because both fanbases are always unreasonable in trade scenarios. 

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3 minutes ago, T R U said:

It never does

His fellow posters on the Orioles site aren’t shocked :)

Don’t know if the Red Sox are looking to buy but Cease and Eloy to the Red Sox for a package starting with Roman Anthony would be very nice.

 

Roman Anthony, Wikelmam Gonzalez, Luis Perales, Blaze Jordan, and Wilyer Abreu

2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Don’t know if the Red Sox are looking to buy but Cease and Eloy to the Red Sox for a package starting with Roman Anthony would be very nice.

 

Roman Anthony, Wikelmam Gonzalez, Luis Perales, Blaze Jordan, and Wilyer Abreu

If I were to make a bet, I’d bet on Cease to Boston over any other team.

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

If I were to make a bet, I’d bet on Cease to Boston over any other team.

Yankees….I think Boston looks to the Mariners for someone with more control.

Are the Sox desperate to dump the Eloy contract that they would attach him to Cease and accept less back?  Any talk of that scenario?

9 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yankees….I think Boston looks to the Mariners for someone with more control.

Kirby or Gilbert?

They will have to empty out the farm.

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Are the Sox desperate to dump the Eloy contract that they would attach him to Cease and accept less back?  Any talk of that scenario?

No, they don’t need to shed payroll. Eloy isn’t blocking anyone.

Just now, caulfield12 said:

Kirby or Gilbert?

They will have to empty out the farm.

Woo or Miller

4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Are the Sox desperate to dump the Eloy contract that they would attach him to Cease and accept less back?  Any talk of that scenario?

Eloy's contract isn't the issue, Eloy's ability to not injure himself because he is a big oaf, is.

Just now, SkokieSox said:

No, they don’t need to shed payroll. Eloy isn’t blocking anyone.

Ok…as an Os fan, that scenario would worry me.

14 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Don’t know if the Red Sox are looking to buy but Cease and Eloy to the Red Sox for a package starting with Roman Anthony would be very nice.

 

Roman Anthony, Wikelmam Gonzalez, Luis Perales, Blaze Jordan, and Wilyer Abreu

I know his dad, lol...catcher, Gonzalez played for the Pirates, Augusta Sally  from 1994-95.

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Ok…as an Os fan, that scenario would worry me.

Eloy was being explored as a trade by himself supposedly. He has value, although not extensive. He’s not a throw in for cash considerations, he would add value to a trade if he were included. 

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