January 5, 20242 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: Dipoto up to his BS again. Weird trade He takes some money onto his team this year in that trade (potentially offset by money coming back from SF) but removes $25 million a year commitments in 25-26 to Ray.
January 5, 20242 yr Author 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Guess we were right. No one wants to throw millions at Snell and Montgomery. I know teams aren’t afraid to make make major commitments nowadays, but those massive contracts are usually limited to truly elite players where they should be very good with some level of drop-off. I’d have nightmares being married to Snell & Montgomery for the next seven years at huge AAVs.
January 5, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Robbie Ray to the Giants…doubt they are trading more pitching. More importantly, it’s likely the Mariners aren’t moving any of theirs. It’s possible I guess but not likely.
January 5, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Funny how all of these other pitching options for the Orioles are dwindling away. Kind of like how it’s funny that options for Cease have dwindled away.
January 5, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I know teams aren’t afraid to make make major commitments nowadays, but those massive contracts are usually limited to truly elite players where they should be very good with some level of drop-off. I’d have nightmares being married to Snell & Montgomery for the next seven years at huge AAVs. Teams never learn.
January 5, 20242 yr Just now, Sports Guy said: Kind of like how it’s funny that options for Cease have dwindled away. We all know that deep down you are panicking.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: Kind of like how it’s funny that options for Cease have dwindled away. Yeah, the reports lately really make it seem like it’s dwindling…..not
January 5, 20242 yr Although I guess the Ms did get a starter in return…guess they could still move a young starter.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: Yeah, the reports lately really make it seem like it’s dwindling…..not I must have missed the Braves and Reds interest still existing. Edited January 5, 20242 yr by Sports Guy
January 5, 20242 yr https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2021&season=2023 Okay Mr. Sports Guy. There’s your list. Have at it. Corbin Burnes only gives you one year of control, a relatively massive prospect cost and $25 million price tag. Alcantara…Marlins won’t trade him or Eury Perez but will potentially move Luzardo, massive injury concerns, coming off a down year Luis Castillo…good luck. Framber Valdez…good luck. Woodruff might be the type of deal almost any team in baseball would make for at least two full years of control…knowing it might completely blow up in your face. White Sox might as well sign him if nobody else will. Pay Montgomery/Snell $150-200 million. Haha. They’re far behind Dylan Cease, btw. Kershaw and Urias, ha and ha. Bieber, well-documented…clearly on downside. More expensive. Peralta…see Burnes, depends what direction ownership goes with rebuild in MIL. Especially if Cubs don’t do much more than keep Bellinger. Musgrove or Darvish…Padres would have to give up at ASB and those are big big big contracts for pitchers that have already peaked in all likelihood. That’s why Dylan Cease is worth a s%*# ton to roughly 15-18 teams in baseball, if you think coldly and rationally about this list. Orioles with quite limited options financially. (Even if FG just posted an article about Gunnar Henderson and Witt Jr. being on Hall of Fame SS tracks...Balt still needs pitching and Kimbrel is already knocking you back 5 games in the standings, lol.) PS: Also a bit ironic looking at Rodon still holding at #10 after that awful 2023…shows just how good his 2021-22 seasons actually were. Edited January 5, 20242 yr by caulfield12
January 5, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Yeah, the reports lately really make it seem like it’s dwindling…..not Haha, what a ?. Edited January 5, 20242 yr by WhiteSox2023
January 5, 20242 yr Author 14 minutes ago, Baron said: They might need to. Robbie is going to be out for atleast half the season. I meant the Mariners…the Orioles’ dream of Miller or Woo for Santander & Urias may have hit a snag
January 5, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: Teams never learn. This is why definitive declarations on who is available for trade and who isn't and what teams will trade for a given player doesn't make sense.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I must have missed the Braves and Reds interest still existing. How many GMs think they have more than enough pitching? These teams would still like to add him, but don't want to pay out there nose with prospects.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: I must have missed the Braves and Reds interest still existing. Yet teams that were mentioned a week ago have popped up (Mets, Red Sox, Mariners)
January 5, 20242 yr I think Getz knows that his asking price for Cease is higher than what teams wanna pay, he's rolling the dice until suitors start falling off the table, that's when you'll see the price come down 100% sure that cease gets dealt, about 90% sure it'll be for way less than what Soxtalk feels is fair
January 5, 20242 yr 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: We agree. Time to pay up. I think you guys are going to end up being disappointed with the actual deal. Sooner or later Getz is going to either accept what’s on the table, compromise, or hold Cease later. The Orioles learned that lesson when they held Machado too long.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: Yet teams that were mentioned a week ago have popped up (Mets, Red Sox, Mariners) 3-2 = 1 Math is hard.
January 5, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: This is why definitive declarations on who is available for trade and who isn't and what teams will trade for a given player doesn't make sense. That doesn’t make sense. This literally has nothing to do with my post. You are like 0-126 in understanding/reading comprehension today.
January 5, 20242 yr Just now, Sports Guy said: That doesn’t make sense. This literally has nothing to do with my post. You are like 0-126 in understanding/reading comprehension today. Oh now you’ve insulted our board injury expert!
January 5, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Yet teams that were mentioned a week ago have popped up (Mets, Red Sox, Mariners) And we have absolutely zero idea how serious it is, especially the Mariners(who just doesn’t make sense). That said, those 2 serious bidders are out. That, by definition, means the options dwindled.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Rolle Tide said: I think you guys are going to end up being disappointed with the actual deal. Sooner or later Getz is going to either accept what’s on the table, compromise, or hold Cease later. The Orioles learned that lesson when they held Machado too long. Soxtalk would be disappointed if it was Ohtani. People would complain that he is only a DH next year and the Sox have plenty of them. It a message board.
January 5, 20242 yr Just now, Sports Guy said: And we have absolutely zero idea how serious it is, especially the Mariners(who just doesn’t make sense). That said, those 2 serious bidders are out. That, by definition, means the options dwindled. Good lord
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