Just now, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

They should have traded both Robert and Crochet. Take what you can get. When have we seen a Sox player’s trade value actually increase the closer they get to free agency over the last 5 years? Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Lynn, Cease, moncada, etc. the value of all these guys diminished the longer they held onto them.

And whatever they did with or to a certain now injured Braves’ starter.

Bummer…throw him in there.  Anderson, Liam.  Lucked out with Kelly Graveman Lynn.

I see Gradyball is not much different.

Just now, Capn12 said:

 

Lol, you can't make this stuff up. Perhaps the problem isn't just the players, but the cesspool organization?

A 0% BB rate and a sub .100 ISO isn’t going to look good when that BABIP normalizes.

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

I see Gradyball is not much different.

The irony of giving up a lead off homer after one of my biggest memories of him is leading off a season with a homer off Contreras.  Now all we need is Robert losing a ball in the sun.

Meanwhile, the one we didn't trade...

 

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

A 0% BB rate and a sub .100 ISO isn’t going to look good when that BABIP normalizes.

To be fair, Eloy has NEVER been a guy with an even remotely ok BB rate, but right now, he's actually hitting the ball.

Robert is just absolutely terrible now as well. 

6 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

 

Lol, you can't make this stuff up. Perhaps the problem isn't just the players, but the cesspool organization?

Has he played in the field for them?  I thought he was exclusively DH.

9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

They should have traded both Robert and Crochet. Take what you can get. When have we seen a Sox player’s trade value actually increase the closer they get to free agency over the last 5 years? Eloy, Kopech, Giolito, Lynn, Cease, moncada, etc. the value of all these guys diminished the longer they held onto them.

I don’t agree on Robert.  The time to trade him was last year’s trade deadline, but that is using some hindsight.  He still has time to go off at the start of next season…  hopefully.

I agree that Crochet should have been traded, even with his extension demand that didn’t help things.  Now, with Crochet apparently hitting the wall at 120 innings, it might scare off some teams next offseason, but some team will still bite on him.

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1 minute ago, Big Hurtin said:

Has he played in the field for them?  I thought he was exclusively DH.

Nope, nothing but DH.

3 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

To be fair, Eloy has NEVER been a guy with an even remotely ok BB rate, but right now, he's actually hitting the ball.

I’m sure he’s way more focused now on a team trying to compete and that has competitive at bats

4 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Nope, nothing but DH.

The Orioles are a much much smarter and better org than the Sox.  It’s like night and day.

How many years of bad defense in LF, injuries, and months on the IL did it take the Sox to realize Eloy was a DH?

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11 minutes ago, fathom said:

The irony of giving up a lead off homer after one of my biggest memories of him is leading off a season with a homer off Contreras.  Now all we need is Robert losing a ball in the sun.

The ONE thing Kansas City has contributed to the Sox the past two decades…

Except the ball would hit him in the face and knock him out for the remainder of the season due to blurred vision.

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Eloy has been hitting the ball opposite field almost exclusively since going to BAL

Just now, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Orioles are a much much smarter and better org than the Sox.  It’s like night and day.

Who is worse?  Colorado?  Definitely not Oakland or Miami based on this season.

Just now, caulfield12 said:

Who is worse?  Colorado?  Definitely not Oakland or Miami based on this season.

A random Sox fan could do better than anyone employed in the Sox front office by sheer luck.

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

A random Sox fan could do better than anyone employed in the Sox front office by sheer luck.

Just doing the opposite of Hahn 75-80% of time in FA would be AL Executive of the Year material…

32 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Yay, let’s further kill Crochet’s trade value for the offseason!

What's the trade value on a guy that can get you to the All Star break then needs to be shut down? 

How much would you want Getz to give up to add a guy like that? 

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Orioles are a much much smarter and better org than the Sox.  It’s like night and day.

How many years of bad defense in LF, injuries, and months on the IL did it take the Sox to realize Eloy was a DH?

Ask @southsider2k5. He thinks they handled it well

Just now, Texsox said:

What's the trade value on a guy that can get you to the All Star break then needs to be shut down? 

How much would you want Getz to give up to add a guy like that? 

I mean theoretically his arm should be stronger next year because of this year. He should have more innings next year. 

Vargas needs to be in Charlotte 

White Sox are 0 for the season on comebacks when trailing after the 5th 6th 7th…

SD must have at least half their victories in come from behind fashion the past 2-3 weeks.  It’s almost uncanny.

 

Did it yet again tonight.   Ten runs allowed the last two nights by depleted Miami pen in extras.

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3 minutes ago, fathom said:

Vargas needs to be in Charlotte 

That would be Getz admitting to being wrong…pride is at stake here on the scouting/eval side.

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4 minutes ago, Texsox said:

What's the trade value on a guy that can get you to the All Star break then needs to be shut down? 

How much would you want Getz to give up to add a guy like that? 

That’s why Getz should have traded him.  He started breaking down after the deadline.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

Vargas needs to be in Charlotte 

He’s trash.  I’ll still take the Twins prospect that needs TJ surgery over Vargas.