December 10, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: If we have to fill it out with vets, I'm cool with fan favorites. Mike Tauchman is a fan favorite?
December 10, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Mike Tauchman is a fan favorite? Every fanbase of teams has been on have spoke incredibly highly of him from what I've seen.
December 10, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, TitoMB345 said: i can't wait to dislike this guy next season. He will hit .175 for us and play like trash. That's what happens when mediocre guys sign with the Sox, they become worse.
December 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Every fanbase of teams has been on have spoke incredibly highly of him from what I've seen. He generally speaking has good at bats and seems to have a plan up there. That alone will be refreshing.
December 10, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, 2Deep said: He will hit .175 for us and play like trash. That's what happens when mediocre guys sign with the Sox, they become worse. He Getz it.
December 10, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, Lyle Moooton said: He generally speaking has good at bats and seems to have a plan up there. That alone will be refreshing. Unfortunately, players don’t stay the same or improve into their mid-30’s like Jerry and Sox GM’s for the past eternity hope and bank on. They decline. This is the story of Sox offseasons for years, and they still never get it. Well, they probably get it. They just don’t care. Edited December 10, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
December 10, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Unfortunately, players don’t stay the same or improve into their mid-30’s like Jerry and Sox GM’s for the past eternity hope and bank on. They decline. This is the story of Sox offseasons for years, and they still never get it. Well, they probably get it. They just don’t care. He turned 34 six days ago. I doubt he falls completely off a cliff, and it's not like bat speed is one of his strong assets anyway. It's his pitch recognition.
December 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: He turned 34 six days ago. I doubt he falls completely off a cliff, and it's not like bat speed is one of his strong assets anyway. It's his pitch recognition. We’ve seen this far too many times. Even if he is decent, does it even matter? He was decent last season with the Cubs and he wasn’t moved at the deadline for any sort of return when the Cubs were selling assets. That should really be the only goal of the Sox making one-year veteran signings. Otherwise, play Colas and the younger bums that Getz acquired last year. Edited December 10, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
December 10, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: We’ve seen this far too many times. Even if he is decent, does it even matter? He was decent last season with the Cubs and he wasn’t moved at the deadline for any sort of return when the Cubs were selling assets. Well, man. I don't know what to tell you. Take a few years off if every single thing they are going to do bothers you in some way or another.
December 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: We’ve seen this far too many times. Even if he is decent, does it even matter? He was decent last season with the Cubs and he wasn’t moved at the deadline for any sort of return when the Cubs were selling assets. That should really be the only goal of the Sox making one-year veteran signings. It's pretty clear that Tauchman and Slater are going to platoon, and it's the plan for the year. The idea is not to trade either guy, and the hope is to steal maybe 2 WAR in right field. I don't really agree that the Sox should only make signings to flip - I think asset flipping should really only occur if the performance and leverage are there. You should be acquiring talent as to not humiliate yourself again. I really don't think some people here, even you as odd as it sounds, realize how damning it is to this organization to exist as they have been for the past 16+ months. They cannot be a turnstile organization of trash. They aren't the A's yet in the eyes of players, but they're in the room. How far this organization has fallen is incredible; say what you will about prior dysfunctions, but they don't hold a candle to the current state of affairs. I think the Tauchman/Slater combo is like a guy who acquires the bum after their one great week in fantasy. Slater looked washed to me last year, and Tauchman is a 34 year old whose defense took a noise dive last year. The issue with those two is the upside just isn't there, but I guess that's why they cost $12 and a stick of gum.
December 10, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It's pretty clear that Tauchman and Slater are going to platoon, and it's the plan for the year. The idea is not to trade either guy, and the hope is to steal maybe 2 WAR in right field. I don't really agree that the Sox should only make signings to flip - I think asset flipping should really only occur if the performance and leverage are there. You should be acquiring talent as to not humiliate yourself again. I really don't think some people here, even you as odd as it sounds, realize how damning it is to this organization to exist as they have been for the past 16+ months. They cannot be a turnstile organization of trash. They aren't the A's yet in the eyes of players, but they're in the room. How far this organization has fallen is incredible; say what you will about prior dysfunctions, but they don't hold a candle to the current state of affairs. I think the Tauchman/Slater combo is like a guy who acquires the bum after their one great week in fantasy. Slater looked washed to me last year, and Tauchman is a 34 year old whose defense took a noise dive last year. The issue with those two is the upside just isn't there, but I guess that's why they cost $12 and a stick of gum. His numbers are actually pretty split. I think Slater platoons with Benintendi or one of the younger guys.
December 10, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Mike Tauchman is a fan favorite? Yes. Rockies and Cubs fans love him.
December 10, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Yes. Rockies and Cubs fans love him. 69 awful plate appearances with the Rockies and their fans love him? Uhhh, no.
December 10, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It's pretty clear that Tauchman and Slater are going to platoon, and it's the plan for the year. The idea is not to trade either guy, and the hope is to steal maybe 2 WAR in right field. I don't really agree that the Sox should only make signings to flip - I think asset flipping should really only occur if the performance and leverage are there. You should be acquiring talent as to not humiliate yourself again. I really don't think some people here, even you as odd as it sounds, realize how damning it is to this organization to exist as they have been for the past 16+ months. They cannot be a turnstile organization of trash. They aren't the A's yet in the eyes of players, but they're in the room. How far this organization has fallen is incredible; say what you will about prior dysfunctions, but they don't hold a candle to the current state of affairs. I think the Tauchman/Slater combo is like a guy who acquires the bum after their one great week in fantasy. Slater looked washed to me last year, and Tauchman is a 34 year old whose defense took a noise dive last year. The issue with those two is the upside just isn't there, but I guess that's why they cost $12 and a stick of gum. I agree with you but that obviously isn’t a big concern to Jerry. RF will be a massive hole again next season. It’s been that way since 2017. Tauchman, Slater, Fletcher, or whomever aren’t solving that problem.
December 10, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: 69 awful plate appearances with the Rockies and their fans love him? Uhhh, no. They do. Not sure why, other than he was the source of a MLB meme on players your fanbase likes that weren't actually good players. I dont know what the story is there. But here's Cubs reaction to Sox signing him. Clearly a fan favorite https://www.reddit.com/r/CHICubs/comments/1hat5s4/merkin_white_sox_to_sign_mike_tauchman/
December 10, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: His numbers are actually pretty split. I think Slater platoons with Benintendi or one of the younger guys. Getz said they form right field.
December 10, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Getz said they form right field. So I assume Fletcher will be starting in CF if Robert is traded.
December 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Getz said they form right field. Didn't see that. Thanks. Also dumb because Benintendi is terrible against lefties ha Edited December 10, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano
December 11, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So I assume Fletcher will be starting in CF if Robert is traded. Where he goes from a PLUS/Top5-10% defender to probably just a bit above league average if he's lucky... We saw the same exact thing with Adam Eaton's value in RF escalating into the stratosphere with all the outfield assists versus his difficulties in CF both route-wise and throwing with the mound in the way.
December 11, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Where he goes from a PLUS/Top5-10% defender to probably just a bit above league average if he's lucky... We saw the same exact thing with Adam Eaton's value in RF escalating into the stratosphere with all the outfield assists versus his difficulties in CF both route-wise and throwing with the mound in the way. The big difference was that Eaton could hit. We have yet to see that from Fletcher. Edited December 11, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
December 11, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The big difference was that Eaton couldn’t. We have yet to see that from Fletcher. https://www.soxon35th.com/a-tale-of-two-fletchers/
December 11, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: I would have preferred signing a guy like Max Kepler on a rebound type of deal. At least that could have some upside. I get you need to fill a roster but collecting guys you can possibly trade for something interesting later should be the priority. Not a guy like Tauchmann. Whatever. It is what it is I guess. No creativity no imagination. I tried to get creative with a Crochet trade to maxmize the return .You said nobody does that. I thought creativity is doing things that very few do. I didn't see anyone structuring a contract like what the Dodgers did with Ohtani. Dodgers trade for Glasnow was contigent on extending him. How often is that done in baseball ? I know they didn't buy out arb years but all it takes is finding the right team that values the opportunity to have Crochet longer than 2 years even if it's just one more year if Crochet wants to give a little discount for those 2 years that he's at his greatest risk of losing large amounts of future money. I know it's not likely to happen but I'd certainly float the idea to teams as GM with Crochet's agents involvement of course. Dodgers may not have thought of signing Ohtani the way they did until Ohtani suggested it. I just keep thinking any Crochet trade is going to take a while when position player top prospects hugging is at levels we've never seen before. Many are speculating Robert is getting moved and I'm afraid to even imagine the poor return Getz might broker now. Crochet might be the only shot to get a really good return. Edited December 11, 20241 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
December 11, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: His strategy is to do whatever JR tells him to do. That's pretty much it especially if we see Robert moved before he has a chance to show he's not the guy he was at year. Get that $15M off the books Chris .
December 11, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I tried to get creative with a Crochet trade to maxmize the return .You said nobody does that. I thought creativity is doing things that very few do. I didn't see anyone structuring a contract like what the Dodgers did with Ohtani. Dodgers trade for Glasnow was contigent on extending him. How often is that done in baseball ? I know they didn't buy out arb years but all it takes is finding the right team that values the opportunity to have Crochet longer than 2 years even if it's just one more year if Crochet wants to give a little discount for those 2 years that he's at his greatest risk of losing large amounts of future money. I know it's not likely to happen but I'd certainly float the idea to teams as GM with Crochet's agents involvement of course. Dodgers may not have thought of signing Ohtani the way they did until Ohtani suggested it. I just keep thinking any Crochet trade is going to take a while when position player top prospects hugging is at levels we've never seen before. Many are speculating Robert is getting moved and I'm afraid to even imagine the poor return Getz might broker now. Crochet might be the only shot to get a really good return. After what Max Fried just signed for at age 30, I doubt Crochet will be considering any sort of extension unless it’s a massive one, not just 3 years. Edited December 11, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
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