Let's wait until we see the players in Spring Training. I am hoping for a few players to surprise us in a positive way.

5 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Agree, Getz and Reinsdorf haven’t done a damn thing to improve the team from last year’s disaster, if they trade Benintendi and Robert this will be the lowest payroll in MLB and quite possibly the lowest in recent memory.

 

 

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Yeah, say what you want about Beni and Robert, they actually are our two best hitters. They actually belong on a roster of an MLB team. It's be kind of funny/interesting to see how the Sox fare without those two. Usually a team has at least one all star candidate. That would leave the Sox with no proven MLB talent. Yikes. I could see us dumping both though since Jerry likes money.

I think the Sox will be a MUCH more respectable organization and get their act together this coming year….

 

55 wins for the over 

Over, just because it's actually very hard to win less than 50 games. 

11 hours ago, tray said:

Let's wait until we see the players in Spring Training. I am hoping for a few players to surprise us in a positive way.

That clarification is sadly necessary, and it is really a sad state of affairs to have to seriously contemplate if we're going to lose 100, or 110+.

I’ll take the over. 

The White Sox’s expected W-L last year based on runs scored/runs against was 48 wins. Although not historic by any means, their finish 7 wins behind that pace was the largest underperformance in baseball last year.

While I don’t believe that was luck, some of the factors that drove it - the toxicity of Grifol, the insistence on “the baseball people are back in charge” and bringing in veteran leadership as the only solution - those haven’t happened so far this year, at least not to the same extent.

Just under. I know it’s hard to do, but I think the roster is that bad.

4 minutes ago, Snopek said:

Just under. I know it’s hard to do, but I think the roster is that bad.

Yep. Just like it’s hard to be historically bad and win 41 games. They did it anyway.

39 wins

I just don't see how they get to 50 wins. 

The pitching staff is bad, the offense is bad, and they haven't done anything to improve the worst roster in baseball history. Sportsbooks aren't making the over/under 49.5 if its going to be really hard for them to win less than 50 games, that's not how it works.

Over 

9 hours ago, JoeC said:

That clarification is sadly necessary, and it is really a sad state of affairs to have to seriously contemplate if we're going to lose 100, or 110+.

For some baseball fans, winning isn't everything but I know there are precious few of that kind of fan on this forum.

My point was that it will be interesting (for some fans like me) to watch the new players the Sox acquired and hope that they can contribute some time down the road. The catcher position will be up for grabs in ST and one of the three competing for that position could also compete to be our DH. There will be competition for all infield positions other than first base. I am anxious to see the 22 year old RF the Sox got from Boston. Benintendi is healthy and could have a good season. Our pitching staff is young but have another year of experience under their belts. And we have some monster prospects that will be coming up in the next few years.

 

3 minutes ago, tray said:

For some baseball fans, winning isn't everything but I know there are precious few of that kind of fan on this forum.

My point was that it will be interesting (for some fans like me) to watch the new players the Sox acquired and hope that they can contribute some time down the road. The catcher position will be up for grabs in ST and one of the three competing for that position could also compete to be our DH. There will be competition for all infield positions other than first base. I am anxious to see the 22 year old RF the Sox got from Boston. Benintendi is healthy and could have a good season. Our pitching staff is young but have another year of experience under their belts. And we have some monster prospects that will be coming up in the next few years.

 

I agree. I enjoy baseball and I think the second half of this year will be interesting to watch as the prospects come up. Will they be any good? You knows.

22 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

I think the Sox will be a MUCH more respectable organization and get their act together this coming year….

 

55 wins for the over 

Thing is they haven't added anything (beni)ficial to the everyday lineup that would improve the final W/L total. At least one facet of the game figures to continue to cost the Sox almost every night. Starting pitching, hitting, bullpen are all conceivably worse than this past season. Defense? I truthfully have no idea how this ragtag bunch will field the ball. Mabe that's a strength if our up the middle defense is actually good. At this point do we even have anybody better than DeBong to play SS? Is Monte ready?

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by greg775

I'm guessing somewhere in the 34-38 range.