If I were a team outside the top 3 picks, I'd be all over Tyler Bell. I think he's going to be a monster.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/mlb-reportedly-proposes-drastic-overhaul-to-draft-which-would-exclude-high-school-players-and-cut-rounds-from-event-193522373.html

Putting another 50% of costs/development responsibilities on the NCAA side of the equation.

Won't stand up in courts.

Would result in lots of future stars going other routes like basketball and football with so much more NIL $$$ available in those areas.

It's not like Japan/Korea and Latin America can/could offset thc significant loss of baseball talent this would result in...all in the name of preventing young stars from getting to FA in their mid to late 20s instead of early 30s.

Truly hope this happens.

what could they really deal? Newcomb? Dominguez?

I have no clue. @Y2Jimmy0 was suggesting a 3 way trade could work? I just dont quite understand why the Pirates would want to give up a comp pick though. Those are gold for smaller market teams who rely on developing talent internally.

1 hour ago, DirtySox said:

Truly hope this happens.

I don’t think it makes sense to subtract from the MLB team to get a draft pick at this point unless they want to get out of Dominguez’s contract already.

10 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I have no clue. @Y2Jimmy0 was suggesting a 3 way trade could work? I just dont quite understand why the Pirates would want to give up a comp pick though. Those are gold for smaller market teams who rely on developing talent internally.

13 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

what could they really deal? Newcomb? Dominguez?

I'm not sure. I was thinking about Jacob Gonzalez to a different club, controllable reliever to the Pirates and #34 to the White Sox maybe.

The Pirates are cheap. I don't think they want to spend $20 million on the draft. They didn't even spend their full pool last year. They have two second round picks in addition to the Comp A.

1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I'm not sure. I was thinking about Jacob Gonzalez to a different club, controllable reliever to the Pirates and #34 to the White Sox maybe.

The Pirates are cheap. I don't think they want to spend $20 million on the draft. They didn't even spend their full pool last year. They have two second round picks in addition to the Comp A.

That would annoy me greatly if I was a Pirates fan. Do you think there is traction here?

5 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

That would annoy me greatly if I was a Pirates fan. Do you think there is traction here?

I'm not sure. I know the Sox have actively looked for another pick. Rosenthal reported that Pirates are open to trading theirs. I'm sure other clubs who have a better fit are also interested though.

13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I'm not sure. I was thinking about Jacob Gonzalez to a different club, controllable reliever to the Pirates and #34 to the White Sox maybe.

The Pirates are cheap. I don't think they want to spend $20 million on the draft. They didn't even spend their full pool last year. They have two second round picks in addition to the Comp A.

I'd be ok with this. Would suck big-time if Gonzalez blows up, but we've got so much depth at 2B. There's also Camiletti who deserves a shot soon IMO. We can call him up if we need more depth.

48 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

That would annoy me greatly if I was a Pirates fan. Do you think there is traction here?

The Pirates spent $330 million on Griffin Reynolds and Keller alone.

Would rather the Sox figured out ways to extend Vargas/Mune than spend it on anything else.

That said, the great organizations can and do both equally well, like the Brewers with their extensions for three young players, including Chourio.

42 minutes ago, ron883 said:

I'd be ok with this. Would suck big-time if Gonzalez blows up, but we've got so much depth at 2B. There's also Camiletti who deserves a shot soon IMO. We can call him up if we need more depth.

Camiletti has approximately the same odds of making it as a long term big league regular as Junior Perez.

8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The Pirates spent $330 million on Griffin Reynolds and Keller alone.

Would rather the Sox figured out ways to extend Vargas/Mune than spend it on anything else.

What are you even talking about? The Sox acquiring another draft pick and more bonus pool has no implications on extending Vargas or Mune.

2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I'm not sure. I was thinking about Jacob Gonzalez to a different club, controllable reliever to the Pirates and #34 to the White Sox maybe.

The Pirates are cheap. I don't think they want to spend $20 million on the draft. They didn't even spend their full pool last year. They have two second round picks in addition to the Comp A.

He’s probably the guy you would dangle in that kind of a deal since he doesn’t really have a spot long term and you can draft someone who might fit the roster better later on. Plus the fact his prospect status was basically dead in the water and then turning him into something after the AAA year he’s had would be awesome.

This is an exciting possibility. We need to beef up the next wave of prospects. It’s a little barren looking right now.

I feel like most of these mock drafts are acting like "gun to head, taking Roch"

Roch is pick. Getz doing a great job of creating diversionary drama. Can’t wait.

7 hours ago, DirtySox said:

What are you even talking about? The Sox acquiring another draft pick and more bonus pool has no implications on extending Vargas or Mune.

The Pirates at least extend their young players…or try to.

Statistically, what’s more likely to have a profound impact?

Letting Mune and Vargas go, or second and third round draft picks?

The idea the Pirates are suddenly being cheap with their draft budget is pretty laughable when they’ve doled out hundreds of millions in extensions.

That’s just an old and tired trope about the Pirates and that until relatively recently highly-criticized ownership group.

Signing pools are pretty much locked in for every team…+/-5%.

2 hours ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

Roch is pick. Getz doing a great job of creating diversionary drama. Can’t wait.

except they already know how much all three players are going to ask for…and Roch/Emerson certainly are clued in about each other’s numbers as well due to having the same representation

6 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

This is an exciting possibility. We need to beef up the next wave of prospects. It’s a little barren looking right now.

Totally. With all of the graduations and not many development wins this season the farm isn't looking so hot. I think Bonemer is your only top 100 guy at this point? Maybe Carlson is in the back end? Hagen stinking it up, Bergolla being indefinitely hurt, Oppor forgetting how to throw a baseball ain't great. I like Fauske and Gabe Davis, but they aren't there just yet.

They really need to nail some talent in this draft. I'd like a high end prep bat and they desperately need to hit on some pitching. Though I'm far more inclined to trust in hitter development at this point.

7 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

He’s probably the guy you would dangle in that kind of a deal since he doesn’t really have a spot long term and you can draft someone who might fit the roster better later on. Plus the fact his prospect status was basically dead in the water and then turning him into something after the AAA year he’s had would be awesome.

I would not trade Gonzalez for the 34th pick in the draft. At that point, you’re lucky if the pick ends up as good as Jacob.

Edited June 20Jun 20 by caulfield12

Shocking the Guardians were so low.

Great with trades AND intl though.

12 hours ago, DirtySox said:

Truly hope this happens.

This baffles me. No idea why Pittsburgh would be willing to do this… I suppose they are figuring that they can get someone with equal or better talent now that is closer to contributing?

Who from our farm matches the bill and would make sense for us?

12 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

what could they really deal? Newcomb? Dominguez?

Yuck