It really does feel like the Ishbia stuff came out and Jerry felt that unbridled joy that was coming from the city, and honestly resented it which brings us back to “I’m not out till I’m ten toes up”

5 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I wish MLB would step in. I don't think anything like this has ever happened before in MLB. Years ago the St. Louis Browns and Connie Macks A's were financially poor franchises and usually sold  off or traded their players because of lack of money. JR is not poor. He is a multi billionaire.  This doesn't say much about his character. You would think any wealthy owner would be ashamed of this team. Obviously he's not. This whole situation tells me he is content with this losing team AND LOW PAYROLL. This is going to be a very profitable  year for JR and his investors. How much money does he need? Most people couldn't spend what he has. Yet he seems to want more and more money.

Connie Mack sold his players to line his pockets

25 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Jerry has no pride.  What a terrible way to end his "managing partner" era.

He's had a good life. Successful business career. Nice family. Championships in multiple sports. I doubt he worries too much about our opinion. 

 

 

We are now known for 2 things. The Black Sox scandal and 121 loss season .

Thanks JR

42 minutes ago, The Grinder said:

We are now known for 2 things. The Black Sox scandal and 121 loss season .

Thanks JR

In both cases...the owners were responsible.

I called 35 wins but 25 is doable if we all pull together. Unite behind the Bad Sox. 

6 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

From your lips to the supreme beings ears, let’s get this guy his island getaway finale 

Jerry said it himself, he doesn't play bingo or cards. What the f*** else is he going to do other than own the chicago white sox? I mean, what else is there to do in 2025 when you are a billionaire, other than own the chicago white sox? I can't think of one thing. 

1 hour ago, The Grinder said:

We are now known for 2 things. The Black Sox scandal and 121 loss season .

Thanks JR

…so far

26 minutes ago, pcq said:

I called 35 wins but 25 is doable if we all pull together. Unite behind the Bad Sox. 

Good post. As some long timers on here know, I used to freak out on a daily basis if and when we lost the game, any game. Even meaningless September games. i wanted ALL wins.  Now (it's not my fault, it's Jerry's conditioning me this way) I expect to lose every single game, kind of in some weird way want to lose every single game. It's strange psychology but I'm thinking after an organization/team finally loses a person (the person is convinced the organization is utter trash and has no ability to turn things around) the brain expects defeat and welcomes defeat. Weird I know but I can't be the only longtime Sox fan who is so jaded he/she kind of likes when we lose now.

Edited April 10, 20251 yr by greg775

11 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

…so far

If JR spent about $75 million on a few free agents this team could win 50 or 60 games. 

Please put Lance Lynn on the Commissioner's Contraction Committee in an advisorial role.

If you can get him away from the dinner table first...

Bear with a frustrated greg ... thanks

You know what's very odd about the Sox ineptitude? Can you think of another business in which the business had its worst year in history the previous calendar year and yet without any shame trots out a product significantly worse the following calendar year?

Why the hell is this accepted as standard procedure in the sports world? Most people with healthy brains would realize getting the No. 10 draft pick means NOTHING if you have to put the worst product ever on the field to get it. Again, management, the on field leadership sees nothing odd about being this rotten with the payoff to come in 3-4 years. Most businesses realize if you are that bad for that long, you are out of business in 3-4 years. Very very sad sports teams can get away with this.

You know, with a team this bad for this long an extended period, a GOOD business would seek out in its records its MOST LOYAL customers and shower them with free stuff (concessions, free tickets, free parking at the least) to reward them for supporting this unsupportable crud of a team.

Edited April 11, 20251 yr by greg775

14 hours ago, Texsox said:

He's had a good life. Successful business career. Nice family. Championships in multiple sports. I doubt he worries too much about our opinion. 

 

 

The problem is the man has no pride at all.

12 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

…so far

Exactly, the 121 losses record is in jeopardy.

2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

The problem is the man has no pride at all.

It is hard to claim that JR is operating "in the best interest of baseball."  He is doing more damage to the game than Pete Rose did.
 

16 hours ago, Texsox said:

He's had a good life. Successful business career. Nice family. Championships in multiple sports. I doubt he worries too much about our opinion. 

 

 

Jerry was never going to let the fans run his team. And he shouldn't. But I think he wanted to make a connection with the fans but didn't know how. I am convinced that the criticism and public backlash bothers him a great deal. He won't change what he is doing, but he is human. A normal person wants to be accepted and liked. He used to walk around SoxFest. He won't do that now. 

1 hour ago, poppysox said:

It is hard to claim that JR is operating "in the best interest of baseball."  He is doing more damage to the game than Pete Rose did.
 

Jerry doesn't have to do so.  Only the commissioner has that mandate.

1 hour ago, poppysox said:

It is hard to claim that JR is operating "in the best interest of baseball."  He is doing more damage to the game than Pete Rose did.
 

It’s really hard to sit here and see what Fisher just did to the A’s, what happened in Montreal, and the overall bullshit AAAA development team that the Marlins have been since they entered the league (except for the few times they tried) and think that Jerry is doing more damage to the game than someone like Rose.  
 

imo Rose damaged himself, the most.  The league he damaged but what Fisher and Loria have done to this league and what they showed other owners could be done, is far worse.  They intentionally devalued their franchises to move them 

10 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

The problem is the man has no pride at all.

I've never met him and he doesn't do many interviews so I really don't have an opinion on if he has "pride". You don't think he's proud of his family or business accomplishments? 

And in the grand scheme of life I'm not certain that wins and losses for a baseball team is something I'd base my pride on. 

10 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I've never met him and he doesn't do many interviews so I really don't have an opinion on if he has "pride". You don't think he's proud of his family or business accomplishments? 

And in the grand scheme of life I'm not certain that wins and losses for a baseball team is something I'd base my pride on. 

If I owned a team for 40 plus years and I was in Reinsdorfs place I would be absolutely mortified.  This is absolutely a pride piece of his life and while he is still making money I definitely believe he feels the shame of what’s happened, he just doesn’t have the motivation to do the right thing either in investment or selling

If every team won one less game and the Sox won 29 more, would that really make a huge difference to the game overall? Is that really the difference in ruining the game?

Are fans anywhere else complaining about the Sox? Is a Pirates fan giving up the game because the Sox suck this bad? 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Texsox said:

 

 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

If I owned a team for 40 plus years and I was in Reinsdorfs place I would be absolutely mortified.  This is absolutely a pride piece of his life and while he is still making money I definitely believe he feels the shame of what’s happened, he just doesn’t have the motivation to do the right thing either in investment or selling

I find this much easier to believe than he has no pride. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pittsburgh/news/pirates-fan-paper-bag-protest/

 

 

4 hours ago, Texsox said:

I've never met him and he doesn't do many interviews so I really don't have an opinion on if he has "pride". You don't think he's proud of his family or business accomplishments? 

And in the grand scheme of life I'm not certain that wins and losses for a baseball team is something I'd base my pride on. 

Certainly he would take pride if it was thought by him to be a barometer of the quality of his stewardship, which I have no doubt he does. His problem is, and always has been hubris and delusion about the quality of his stewardship.

Edited April 12, 20251 yr by Chick Mercedes