June 1, 2025Jun 1 22 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: The problem is he is still there. And he still has the respect from JR who values his opinions.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 If only they had traded him after his 2023 season. It’s going to be a brutal pill to swallow knowing to they could have gotten back top prospect(s) had they sold him high rather than nothing but a $2 million dollar buyout.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 10 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: How about a stint down in Charlotte for Robert, maybe it will be a wake up call. Not possible. He has no options. 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: If only they had traded him after his 2023 season. It’s going to be a brutal pill to swallow knowing to they could have gotten back top prospect(s) had they sold him high rather than nothing but a $2 million dollar buyout. This was just never realistic unfortunately. Chris Getz in his first offseason as GM wasn’t going to be able to get value for 4 years of Luis Robert coming off a career year. It is unfortunate though.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: If only they had traded him after his 2023 season. It’s going to be a brutal pill to swallow knowing to they could have gotten back top prospect(s) had they sold him high rather than nothing but a $2 million dollar buyout. A false faith without a crystal ball
June 1, 2025Jun 1 You'd think Robert would seek help from some hitting gurus. Has to grow old making outs more than 80 percent of the time.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 7 minutes ago, greg775 said: You'd think Robert would seek help from some hitting gurus. Has to grow old making outs more than 80 percent of the time. As long as his checks don't bounce he'll be fine.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Not possible. He has no options. This was just never realistic unfortunately. Chris Getz in his first offseason as GM wasn’t going to be able to get value for 4 years of Luis Robert coming off a career year. It is unfortunate though. If he KNEW this was a long rebuild, it's a gigantic mistake, knowing the injury history he had even pre23, plus a career year. If he held on because of "value" he hit on a 19.
June 1, 2025Jun 1 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If he KNEW this was a long rebuild, it's a gigantic mistake, knowing the injury history he had even pre23, plus a career year. If he held on because of "value" he hit on a 19. Seriously, that lame argument of “they’d never get value” is such a stupid line of thinking that has now turned out to making him worth nothing.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If he KNEW this was a long rebuild, it's a gigantic mistake, knowing the injury history he had even pre23, plus a career year. If he held on because of "value" he hit on a 19. Disagree. What do you think someone gives up for 4 years of Luis Robert after a 5 WAR season? More than they'd give up now for sure but I doubt it would've been enough to not wait.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 29 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Disagree. What do you think someone gives up for 4 years of Luis Robert after a 5 WAR season? More than they'd give up now for sure but I doubt it would've been enough to not wait. This is an awful take. Dude had a LONG injury history going back to the year they signed him. He also was coming off a a huge break out year. Even if you take a bit less then, was it worth betting on his health if we knew this team was going to be awful? Well, ask yourself what he is worth now.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is an awful take. Dude had a LONG injury history going back to the year they signed him. He also was coming off a a huge break out year. Even if you take a bit less then, was it worth betting on his health if we knew this team was going to be awful? Well, ask yourself what he is worth now. Chris Getz would've been eviscerated if he traded Robert in his first winter on the job. They wouldn't have gotten close to enough. It made sense to wait. It hasn't worked out.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 24 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Chris Getz would've been eviscerated if he traded Robert in his first winter on the job. They wouldn't have gotten close to enough. It made sense to wait. It hasn't worked out. I’m not so sure about this. I doubt the return would have been worse than the Cease trade, and Getz is still surviving that one.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 28 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Chris Getz would've been eviscerated if he traded Robert in his first winter on the job. They wouldn't have gotten close to enough. It made sense to wait. It hasn't worked out. Also a terrible reason to not do what's right.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Also a terrible reason to not do what's right. It wasn't what was right though. Waiting made sense. It hasn't worked out.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’m not so sure about this. I doubt the return would have been worse than the Cease trade, and Getz is still surviving that one. That was the best offer they had for Cease by a lot too. Should they have waited on that one?
June 2, 2025Jun 2 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’m not so sure about this. I doubt the return would have been worse than the Cease trade, and Getz is still surviving that one. If he’s not given away for Pennie’s on the dollar he is absolutely getting bought out at the end of the year. While I can understand the premise behind not trading him after 2023 the team was in the process of a total tear down and there was no way Robert was going to be around on his current deal by the time they were going to be good again. I would rather b**** about not getting enough for him than what’s going on right now. It was an unnecessary gamble and a real kick in the nuts for expediting this rebuild.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: That was the best offer they had for Cease by a lot too. Should they have waited on that one? I think Cease had a better chance to increase his value if they waited. Robert was at best going to maintain value.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 10 minutes ago, supernuke said: I think Cease had a better chance to increase his value if they waited. Robert was at best going to maintain value. This is a good point.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 Except pitching injuries are much likelier to occur…every reconstructed elbow a ticking time bomb.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It wasn't what was right though. Waiting made sense. It hasn't worked out. Not when the history was against him.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: That was the best offer they had for Cease by a lot too. Should they have waited on that one? I never said they should have waited to trade Cease. I was saying that I doubt whatever Getz could have traded Robert for after the 2023 season would have gotten him eviscerated, considering the poor Cease trade hasn’t.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 12 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: If he KNEW this was a long rebuild, it's a gigantic mistake, knowing the injury history he had even pre23, plus a career year. If he held on because of "value" he hit on a 19. At the time, it was painfully obvious to many of us. We retained the player who had just finished a career year after trading the one who had just finished a poor season. It was so damned stupid. It's challenging to support this team because being terrible is one thing, but being terrible and making poor decisions at the same time is quite another. As fans, we search for reasons to support teams, sometimes because we believe they will succeed in the future and other times because they are talented enough to take home a championship. We don't have either, and it absolutely kills any White Sox fandom I may have. I moved out from Chicago. I have to pay not only with my time but also with money to watch the White Sox. When I visit family, I have to set aside time to go to a Sox game. None of that is happening unless things change for me. So yeah, for me it isn't even like I am looking back angrily at the decision; it is just another reason to have zero faith in this group. Sometimes, even if you make the right choice, things won't work out. Prospects are going to fail. Heck, even calculated gambles trading Garrett Crochet early can still end up being wrong in the MLB when you look at how successful moderate payroll teams are built you need to not only make good decisions but also a certain amount of luck to be good. The team simply doesn't have the margin of error to keep making dumb decisions because of the budget they have. They need to be smarter than the large market teams to win and have a certain amount of good luck. In many ways we are already lucky due to the division we play in there are no Dodgers or the Yankees who are just going to lap everyone with their spending. The other problem is the Sox make trades for players without any kind of overall strategy or plan, as you can see when you look at the current rebuild. While some prospects have a three-year timeline, others are currently in the major leagues or ready to be called up. In order to have a cheap core to build around, the Sox need a large number of prospects to arrive at the same time if they hope to have a window of three to five years. To me, they seem to be completely clueless about what they are doing. So why waste time rooting for this garbage? I'd rather watch the Bears Edited June 2, 2025Jun 2 by wrathofhahn
June 2, 2025Jun 2 There will be teams interested in Robert for his speed and defense alone, but the return is going to pennies on the dollar compared to what the Sox could have gotten for him in the past. Even compared to what they could have received this past winter, the return will be pretty light. I don't know if he'll ever be the guy we thought he could have been, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a contender and improves quite a bit. I have to believe it's a mental thing for him.
June 2, 2025Jun 2 29 minutes ago, hogan873 said: There will be teams interested in Robert for his speed and defense alone, but the return is going to pennies on the dollar compared to what the Sox could have gotten for him in the past. Even compared to what they could have received this past winter, the return will be pretty light. I don't know if he'll ever be the guy we thought he could have been, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a contender and improves quite a bit. I have to believe it's a mental thing for him. Yep. It ain’t going to happen here
June 2, 2025Jun 2 11 hours ago, supernuke said: I think Cease had a better chance to increase his value if they waited. Robert was at best going to maintain value. Yeah I don’t buy this at all. Based on what exactly?
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