4/13 game thread vs Boston 1:10 first pitch

[bobbydanks]

not going to complain too much but if we're cheering for tappers to the opposite field when a guy's 0-2 in the count then maybe it's time to call up guys who can at least launch one

the reason the count was 0-2 wasn't because the pitcher was great it was because the pitcher had no fear of the batter. throw in quero or elko or hell even colson montgomery to whiff 3 times. at this point throw in schultz to bat i dont care i know we suck but it's fun to suck less.  anyways. go bulls. who's drinking with me on wednesday? 

[wegner]

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Well, it was a good run of game threads.  RIP.

In charge of a 2 game win streak....you are The Man!!!

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

11 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Taylor shorten up

There was one place for the hitter to truly shorten up and that was with Palacios up with men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Just had a stolen base of 2nd to stay out of the DP. Contact likely ties the game. He K'd instead.

Any chance the WSox had of winning vanished unless the guy behind him got a hit and Vargas did not after battling for 10 pitches.

[wegner]

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

There was one place for the hitter to truly shorten up and that was with Palacios up with men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Just had a stolen base of 2nd to stay out of the DP. Contact likely ties the game. He K'd instead.

Any chance the WSox had of winning vanished unless the guy behind him got a hit and Vargas did not after battling for 10 pitches.

Glad to hear Vargas at least gave it an at bat. Too bad he didn't build on that 9th inning hit the other day.

[bobbydanks]

in retrospect there was worse than zero reason for palacios to be up at that at bat even though he swung hard at the pitches he missed. hell why is that guy in the mlb besides some weird choice the management made. it felt like hiring a guy to walk to the store for you and he never had legs to begin with. what the hell was that roster decision? 

[PaleAleSox]

14 minutes ago, bobbydanks said:

in retrospect there was worse than zero reason for palacios to be up at that at bat even though he swung hard at the pitches he missed. hell why is that guy in the mlb besides some weird choice the management made. it felt like hiring a guy to walk to the store for you and he never had legs to begin with. what the hell was that roster decision? 

They are currently missing three outfielders. I'd rather see Fletcher or Deloach but it is what it is.

[Lip Man 1]

With this offense or lack of same you knew it was going to be a tall task to beat Crochet. 

[greg775]

Meidroth is tremendous no doubt, but it is nationally embarrassing that the Sox refuse to keep good things (phenoms like Crochet). Sad that a big city team operates like it is broke. Love me some Meidroth obviously. Would rather have Crochet though as he is truly special. Embarrassing loss today because of the near no-no.

Edited Sunday at 09:17 PM by greg775

[greg775]

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You can root for your bad team to win in a tight game.

Even though I confessed the other day it doesn't hurt to lose any more since I'm so used to it, there's really no harm in rooting for wins. You don't even get the No. 1 pick assured when you have a team as bad as the Sox were last year. Especially early in the season when the Sox are not mathematically buried a win is rather nice, especially at home where the loyal fans paid good money.

[WhiteSox2023]

9 minutes ago, greg775 said:

Even though I confessed the other day it doesn't hurt to lose any more since I'm so used to it, there's really no harm in rooting for wins. You don't even get the No. 1 pick assured when you have a team as bad as the Sox were last year. Especially early in the season when the Sox are not mathematically buried a win is rather nice, especially at home where the loyal fans paid good money.

This year, the Sox will get the #1 pick in the 2026 draft if they finish the season with the worst record.

Edited Sunday at 09:26 PM by WhiteSox2023

[PaleAleSox]

6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This year, the Sox will get the #1 pick in the 2026 draft if they finish the season with the worst record.

I don’t think that’s true. Wouldn’t they have the same odds as two other teams? Is it guaranteed because of the 10th pick thing this year?

[Lip Man 1]

The Sox have now scored three runs or less in 11 of the 15 games played this year.

The record when they score three runs or less is 1-10.

[WhiteSox2023]

19 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I don’t think that’s true. Wouldn’t they have the same odds as two other teams? Is it guaranteed because of the 10th pick thing this year?

Here’s what I found.  It is a draft lottery for the top 6 picks.  I was wrong and the Sox wouldn’t automatically get the 1st pick, but finishing with the worst record in baseball would increase their chances of getting the #1 pick and a higher pick overall.

“The MLB draft order is determined by a combination of factors, including a lottery for the first six picks, reverse order of regular season records for non-playoff teams, and postseason finish for playoff teams.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

1. Draft Lottery:

The first six picks are determined by a lottery, where teams that didn't make the playoffs are assigned odds based on their previous season's record. The team with the worst record doesn't automatically get the top pick; the lottery ensures a degree of randomness. 

2. Reverse Order of Standings:

For the remaining picks (7-18), the draft order follows the reverse order of the previous season's standings among non-playoff teams. 

3. Postseason Finish:

Once the lottery and non-playoff teams have picked, the 12 postseason teams take their turns in order of their elimination in the playoffs, with the World Series champion picking last. 

4. Additional Factors:

Revenue sharing status and competitive balance picks can also affect the draft order.” 

Edited Sunday at 09:41 PM by WhiteSox2023

[kitekrazy]

2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

With this offense or lack of same you knew it was going to be a tall task to beat Crochet. 

So far all the teams he's faced have trouble with him.  Sox are not excluded.

[caulfield12]

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Here’s what I found.  It is a draft lottery for the top 6 picks.  I was wrong and the Sox wouldn’t automatically get the 1st pick, but finishing with the worst record in baseball would increase their chances of getting the #1 pick and a higher pick overall.

“The MLB draft order is determined by a combination of factors, including a lottery for the first six picks, reverse order of regular season records for non-playoff teams, and postseason finish for playoff teams.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

1. Draft Lottery:

The first six picks are determined by a lottery, where teams that didn't make the playoffs are assigned odds based on their previous season's record. The team with the worst record doesn't automatically get the top pick; the lottery ensures a degree of randomness. 

2. Reverse Order of Standings:

For the remaining picks (7-18), the draft order follows the reverse order of the previous season's standings among non-playoff teams. 

3. Postseason Finish:

Once the lottery and non-playoff teams have picked, the 12 postseason teams take their turns in order of their elimination in the playoffs, with the World Series champion picking last. 

4. Additional Factors:

Revenue sharing status and competitive balance picks can also affect the draft order.” 

Pretty much know it's going to be the Sox, Marlins, Rockies....not counting on the Braves and Twins to have the worst records when all is said and done.

Has to be at least one NL Central team, likeliest the Pirates.

Edited Monday at 12:14 AM by caulfield12

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

8 hours ago, wegner said:

Glad to hear Vargas at least gave it an at bat. Too bad he didn't build on that 9th inning hit the other day.

If  Hawk announcing he would've said about Vargas routine flyout to left field, " He just missed it", and actually he did. He was all over the pitch but the difference between a good hitter and a bad hitter is that good hitters get hits on mistake pitches a lot more often.

He one of those guys where his process is pretty good but the results between his brain and swing don't add up to quality squaring up or barreling the ball. It's like he's always either late or the swing is just .50 inch off from where it should be to get some good exit velo. It's like a good combination of eyesight with pitch recognition.

Some hitter try to pick up the way its coming out of a pitchers hand since each has a different grip . That's why pitchers hide the ball as long as they can so the hitter might focus on the release point. But you only have a fraction of a second to recognize things and react or not react. There's very few hitters that just react as they see the ball.  A lot of times you really have to guess whats coming and think like a pitcher depending on count, with your swing tendencies vs his pitch sequencing and  whats working for him that day which can change inning by inning.

It's easy to understand why some hitters just swing out of the zone so much. It looks like its coming right down the middle 1/4 or more of the way towards the plate then the sucker breaks down or down and away from you or in on you and at various speeds. To square it up you have to pinpoint speed, pitch type and location and swing and hit the ball not too soon and not too late but just right and there's still a bunch of fielders out there to take hits away from you even if you do all that stuff right.

[caulfield12]

29. White Sox (previously: 29)
Sure, the White Sox got to say hi to Crochet when he came with his new team, the Red Sox, on Sunday, but the real news from that trade, as far as Sox fans are concerned, was the debut over the weekend of Chase Meidroth, one of the four young players they received in the Crochet trade. He’s an on-base machine, and he showed why in his first game, reaching base four times, with three walks. On Sunday? He incredibly broke up Crochet's no-hit bid with a single in the eighth inning.

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Rockies now 30th...Kris Bryant deal might be the worst in baseball, goes on for four more years