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Was at the Kannapolis game tonight. 

Montgomery looked solid, although none of his hits was particularly well struck and he was clearly out at first on one of them. Mongollon's homer was a monster, and he hit three balls really hard. Good player although obviously not a very high ceiling. But generates great bat speed for his size. Really small guy, probably 5'5. 

Bonemer was, to me, easily the best prospect on the team and in the park. He just looks the part, thick and athletic looking, very fast bat. It was easy for him, he was all over the MB reliever who was tough for everyone else to square up and made Montgomery look kinda silly. Good fielder, really good athlete. Very high on him after watching, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to Birmingham this year. 

Wolkow is struggling. Burrows is overmatched. 

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1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

Didn't get a chance to see it but Taylor 3IP 0H 0R 2bb 5K.  Only questions with him are role and health. I want to stretch him out as a starter, but if that fails, he'd be a hell of a late inning guy.

Think the plan is to limit him to 3 innings for the first half at least. 

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25 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Think the plan is to limit him to 3 innings for the first half at least. 

For sure. But he was only transitioning to starting in college when he had TJS, and Josh Barfield has openly mused about him closing, so the role is definitely up in the air.

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8 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

For sure. But he was only transitioning to starting in college when he had TJS, and Josh Barfield has openly mused about him closing, so the role is definitely up in the air.

Taylor is a lot less exciting as a closer.

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Kanny and Charlotte both win in extras after blowing leads. Kanny gave up a 6-0 lead in the 9th. Birmingham cruises behind solid pitching. The pen there is pretty good. Possible reinforcements for later in the year.

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38 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

For sure. But he was only transitioning to starting in college when he had TJS, and Josh Barfield has openly mused about him closing, so the role is definitely up in the air.

True but I definitely think the plan is to stretch him out eventually.

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1 hour ago, Rusty_Kuntz said:

Was at the Kannapolis game tonight. 

Montgomery looked solid, although none of his hits was particularly well struck and he was clearly out at first on one of them. Mongollon's homer was a monster, and he hit three balls really hard. Good player although obviously not a very high ceiling. But generates great bat speed for his size. Really small guy, probably 5'5. 

Bonemer was, to me, easily the best prospect on the team and in the park. He just looks the part, thick and athletic looking, very fast bat. It was easy for him, he was all over the MB reliever who was tough for everyone else to square up and made Montgomery look kinda silly. Good fielder, really good athlete. Very high on him after watching, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to Birmingham this year. 

Wolkow is struggling. Burrows is overmatched. 

How did he look at 3B?

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16 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yeah I don’t get that talk at all. Give him time to show he can start.

He's thrown 80 something innings over the last 3+ years.  If he manages to stay healthy he'll very likely be able to pitch out of the bullpen this year. I don't think starting is in his future.

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6 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

He's thrown 80 something innings over the last 3+ years.  If he manages to stay healthy he'll very likely be able to pitch out of the bullpen this year. I don't think starting is in his future.

Let's say he becomes the Sox closer...and then what, we HOPE for one amazing half-season or 1 1/2 seasons, then trade him to the highest bidder?

What value does he really have on a 100-120 loss White Sox team, except via trade to another contending team that could really use him?

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16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

How did he look at 3B?

Good. Made a couple routine plays easily, moved well. Was on a scorched ball in the hole but it got by him. Would rather see him at SS over Burrowes, who just doesn't look like he can hit at all. 

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16 minutes ago, Rusty_Kuntz said:

Good. Made a couple routine plays easily, moved well. Was on a scorched ball in the hole but it got by him. Would rather see him at SS over Burrowes, who just doesn't look like he can hit at all. 

Well, the biggest cliche in minor league baseball is you play the guy at SS until he's basically forced off it (and even if you see a position change looming at the MLB level)...then to 2B, ideally (for any hitter with legit pop and decent to above-average athleticism).  If for no other reason than perceived trade value across the industry.

CF, until you're pushed to a corner.

 

Burrowes isn't really a legit prospect that I know of, so hopefully they'll give him increasing opportunities at SS.

 

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29 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Well, the biggest cliche in minor league baseball is you play the guy at SS until he's basically forced off it (and even if you see a position change looming at the MLB level)...then to 2B, ideally (for any hitter with legit pop and decent to above-average athleticism).  If for no other reason than perceived trade value across the industry.

CF, until you're pushed to a corner.

 

Burrowes isn't really a legit prospect that I know of, so hopefully they'll give him increasing opportunities at SS.

 

Is this really a correct use of cliche?

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17 minutes ago, Jerksticks said:

Is this really a correct use of cliche?

That's your concern about Bonemer, cliches and adages, lol...?

An adage is a well-known saying or proverb, often expressing a general truth or piece of advice. A cliché, on the other hand, is a phrase or expression that has become overused and trite due to its frequent use, often to the point of being unoriginal and lacking impact. In essence, a cliché is a worn-out adage. 

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9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Let's say he becomes the Sox closer...and then what, we HOPE for one amazing half-season or 1 1/2 seasons, then trade him to the highest bidder?

What value does he really have on a 100-120 loss White Sox team, except via trade to another contending team that could really use him?

I would assume the goal would be to not be losing 100 games.

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9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

This is like Garrett Crochet as closer...why minimize his value, until he proves he's not able to handle it or gets hurt???

You have to hope that whatever maturation process or strength building that Crochet transitioned to can be somehow duplicated in Taylor.

No one besides me ever talks about this but physically Crochet got much bigger and stronger than when he was drafted and pitching in relief. I don't know if that was just natural growth into a men body or some combination of body maturation and rehabbing and strength building after Tommy John surgery.

Whatever he did the question is can it be duplicated in other pitchers ? How players physically mature and gain strength gets way more scientific and investigative then by just knowing body types . Family medical history very important too.

You pitch so much of your life in a boys body but then suddenly you are 20+ lbs heavier. This happen to men at different ages. You hear a lot of talk about players being in their prime in late 20s to early 30s when body and mind and experience all comes together . Sometimes you physically peak before you're mentally ready and vice versa. And just the pure talent needs a good mind to process and make necessary changes along the way with the calm needed to face your failures along the way. This is where you delve into character. Drafting and developing is actually just gathering as much info as you legally are allowed to physiologically and psychologically and being smart enough to know what to do with that info. The best at it make their best guesses because you have to have an intuitive sense of judging character and talent despite all the information you gather.

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11 hours ago, Timmy U said:

Kanny and Charlotte both win in extras after blowing leads. Kanny gave up a 6-0 lead in the 9th. Birmingham cruises behind solid pitching. The pen there is pretty good. Possible reinforcements for later in the year.

Dalquist having a nice start to the year. Still only 24. Pallette unfortunately struggling. Saw Keone Kela attempting a comeback?  32 years old.  Sometimes mlb veterans still chasing the dream can be good mentors or examples of professionalism for the youngsters. 

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12 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

He's thrown 80 something innings over the last 3+ years.  If he manages to stay healthy he'll very likely be able to pitch out of the bullpen this year. I don't think starting is in his future.

Can you explain to me why we need him in the bullpen this year? Are we making a playoff run?

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