Bob Sacamano Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Sounds like they actually sent international bonus pool $, which is way worse than JR's cash imo. Yeah, I hate that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: From the current pool I assume? Yeah I believe you can only trade space from the current pool. Marco Paddy leaving money on the table strikes again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Yeah I believe you can only trade space from the current pool. Marco Paddy leaving money on the table strikes again! It is so hard to keep up with all of these changes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Embarrassing we still can’t spend all our international bonus pool money. The entire org is a fucking joke. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 They're gonna spend the money they saved from the international pool on airfare when they DFA this guy. Does not seem long for this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 To be honest, when they announced Miguel Castro in the game I thought it was a position player coming in to pitch....miss a little, miss alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: From the current pool I assume? It has to be from current pool by rule. Sox had $543K remaining. It can only be traded be in increments or $250K or the entire pool. So they either traded $250K, $500K or $543K. Likely doesn’t matter. There’s nobody to sign and you could theoretically trade Castro. It’s way better than not using the $$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It has to be from current pool by rule. Sox had $543K remaining. It can only be traded be in increments or $250K or the entire pool. So they either traded $250K, $500K or $543K. Likely doesn’t matter. There’s nobody to sign and you could theoretically trade Castro. It’s way better than not using the $$. What do you mean there is "nobody to sign"? Nobody to sign in that price range? If so maybe we could have traded for some more money ourself? I dunno, I'm having a hard time spinning this move. Why do we need another DFA candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 8 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: What do you mean there is "nobody to sign"? Nobody to sign in that price range? If so maybe we could have traded for some more money ourself? I dunno, I'm having a hard time spinning this move. Why do we need another DFA candidate? At the very least there are the random Cubans that pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 48 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It has to be from current pool by rule. Sox had $543K remaining. It can only be traded be in increments or $250K or the entire pool. So they either traded $250K, $500K or $543K. Likely doesn’t matter. There’s nobody to sign and you could theoretically trade Castro. It’s way better than not using the $$. They traded $500k. Will believe Castro and Gomez have any value when they're actually traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 This guy is old and he sucks. WTF is up with Getz acquiring these bums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: What do you mean there is "nobody to sign"? Nobody to sign in that price range? If so maybe we could have traded for some more money ourself? I dunno, I'm having a hard time spinning this move. Why do we need another DFA candidate? All of the players available during this signing period are signed. Some random player could pop up in theory but guys usually wait until next signing period at this point. 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They traded $500k. Will believe Castro and Gomez have any value when they're actually traded. Where was it reported that they traded $500K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 56 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: This guy is old and he sucks. WTF is up with Getz acquiring these bums? That seems to be his M.O. doesn't it? Acquire as many beat up, has-been's, injury prone, stiffs as possible. But hey they are all cheap so JR is very happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: All of the players available during this signing period are signed. Some random player could pop up in theory but guys usually wait until next signing period at this point. Where was it reported that they traded $500K https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/white-sox-acquire-right-hander-miguel-castro-in-a-trade-with-the-astros/ar-AA1EUSdM?ocid=BingNewsSerp Here. Castro's contract was selected from Triple-A Charlotte following the trade. He got a one-year contract calling for a salary of $1.5 million while in the major leagues and $250,000 while in the minors. He can earn $400,000 in performance bonuses for games as a pitcher: $100,000 each for 30, 40, 50 and 60. Also...this. Edited May 17 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/white-sox-acquire-right-hander-miguel-castro-in-a-trade-with-the-astros/ar-AA1EUSdM?ocid=BingNewsSerp Here. Castro's contract was selected from Triple-A Charlotte following the trade. He got a one-year contract calling for a salary of $1.5 million while in the major leagues and $250,000 while in the minors. He can earn $400,000 in performance bonuses for games as a pitcher: $100,000 each for 30, 40, 50 and 60. Also...this. You didn’t quote the right part, but it’s in there. So we could have several teenage prospects but instead Getz chose to spend $500K on a 30 year old reliever that can’t throw strikes? Makes sense… Quote Castro, 30, was acquired in a trade with the Houston Astros for $500,000 in international signing bonus pool allocation. Edited May 17 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You didn’t quote the right part, but it’s in there. So we could have several teenage prospects but instead Getz chose to spend $500K on a 30 year old reliever that can’t throw strikes? Makes sense… It's also now in the international signing thread as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: All of the players available during this signing period are signed. Some random player could pop up in theory but guys usually wait until next signing period at this point. Where was it reported that they traded $500K First off, if true all the players are signed, with this organization, having $500k left over is a fucking joke. Second, I’d take the chances of someone “popping up” over a 30 year old often hurt, can’t throw strikes reliever ever becoming viable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 38 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: First off, if true all the players are signed, with this organization, having $500k left over is a fucking joke. Second, I’d take the chances of someone “popping up” over a 30 year old often hurt, can’t throw strikes reliever ever becoming viable. Yeah what about this Cuban kid who just had a showcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 7 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You didn’t quote the right part, but it’s in there. So we could have several teenage prospects but instead Getz chose to spend $500K on a 30 year old reliever that can’t throw strikes? Makes sense… There aren't several teenage prospects that they could have instead. This year's situation is well documented. The White Sox changed scouting directors on the international side. David Keller basically had a class full of Marco Paddy's players because these guys are signed for years in advance. He also added Cuban righty Yobal Rodriguez and flipped Venezuelan outfielder Orlando Patino from the Dodgers. He can't just go out in the market and find unsigned players who are supposedly sitting around. It doesn't work that way. He and his scouts have to be prioritizing 2027, 2028 and even 2029 right now. Last year, $700K went unspent. I'll criticize them in the future if they continue to not spend their full pool on players but this really isn't the year to do so. 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: First off, if true all the players are signed, with this organization, having $500k left over is a fucking joke. Second, I’d take the chances of someone “popping up” over a 30 year old often hurt, can’t throw strikes reliever ever becoming viable. Generally, I would agree with you on this but not this year. They fired Marco Paddy and had some $$ left over but not a significant amount. Keller signed a few pitchers out of the DR, Yobal Rodriguez out of Cuba and flipped outfielder Orlando Patino from the Dodgers. They know who is projected to be available and willing to sign between now and December 15. They clearly felt like getting Castro was a better idea. We'll never know the other options but it's highly unlikely that something of value was going to be available for $500K in the next few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 38 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: There aren't several teenage prospects that they could have instead. This year's situation is well documented. The White Sox changed scouting directors on the international side. David Keller basically had a class full of Marco Paddy's players because these guys are signed for years in advance. He also added Cuban righty Yobal Rodriguez and flipped Venezuelan outfielder Orlando Patino from the Dodgers. He can't just go out in the market and find unsigned players who are supposedly sitting around. It doesn't work that way. He and his scouts have to be prioritizing 2027, 2028 and even 2029 right now. Last year, $700K went unspent. I'll criticize them in the future if they continue to not spend their full pool on players but this really isn't the year to do so. Generally, I would agree with you on this but not this year. They fired Marco Paddy and had some $$ left over but not a significant amount. Keller signed a few pitchers out of the DR, Yobal Rodriguez out of Cuba and flipped outfielder Orlando Patino from the Dodgers. They know who is projected to be available and willing to sign between now and December 15. They clearly felt like getting Castro was a better idea. We'll never know the other options but it's highly unlikely that something of value was going to be available for $500K in the next few months. Then why would Houston want 500k in space? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Then why would Houston want 500k in space? Wondered the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Anybody worthy of note has been thoroughly scouted, and they're either signed or under agreement for their age 16 year. If David Keller was walking along the beach, and stumbled upon an unknown 17 year old kid throwing rocks into the surf at 101 mph, he could certainly sign him for under $10k. He could sign hundreds of kids for under $10k and that doesn't count against the pool allotment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 46 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Then why would Houston want 500k in space? 45 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Wondered the same I believe they have an agreement with a Cuban and they’ve overspent their available pool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 17 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I believe they have an agreement with a Cuban and they’ve overspent their available pool So deals are still being made… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So deals are still being made… It doesn’t mean the Sox like that player or had a deal with that player. I’d have to look at the Astros signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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