Lip Man 1 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-prospect-hagen-smith-dealing-with-elbow-soreness?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Honestly, this would be the best time for him to go down with a long term injury. This team is dead for the next few seasons. Hopefully he's absolutely fine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 19 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Honestly, this would be the best time for him to go down with a long term injury. This team is dead for the next few seasons. Hopefully he's absolutely fine. He already had TJ. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 28 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He already had TJ. Oh, I did not realize that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Still very concerning. We have already seen several nothing to see here moments only to ultimately turn into major surgery. His velo is dipping and his elbow hurts. Something is wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Still very concerning. We have already seen several nothing to see here moments only to ultimately turn into major surgery. His velo is dipping and his elbow hurts. Something is wrong. They think it’s mechanical. We’ll see if they’re right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Still very concerning. We have already seen several nothing to see here moments only to ultimately turn into major surgery. His velo is dipping and his elbow hurts. Something is wrong. Elbows are always worrisome, especially if he loses what makes him special to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 39 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: They think it’s mechanical. We’ll see if they’re right His mechanics were crazy to begin with. Not surprised they caused issues with an increased workload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, ptatc said: His mechanics were crazy to begin with. Not surprised they caused issues with an increased workload. What I don’t understand is if they think his mechanics are the issue, since he already had TJS in high school, why would they let it get to this point before they tried to do something about them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 46 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: What I don’t understand is if they think his mechanics are the issue, since he already had TJS in high school, why would they let it get to this point before they tried to do something about them? Or draft him in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 This is not good news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 8 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: This is not good news. Good in the sense that they are saying nothing is wrong and the MRI was clean. Time will tell however as memories of Rodon, Dunning and Martin keep coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) from what i've seen from past stories like this, MRI isn't the end all be all i would bet there's a 75% chance he needs TJS again before he pitches his first big league game Edited May 24 by joejoesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Or draft him in the first place. Especially considering who the Sox passed on for him. Yikes… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 16 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Honestly, this would be the best time for him to go down with a long term injury. This team is dead for the next few seasons. Hopefully he's absolutely fine. This team will probably be dead for my eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 18 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Especially considering who the Sox passed on for him. Yikes… Makes me wonder how they'll screw up on #10 in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/24/2025 at 10:16 AM, Lip Man 1 said: Good in the sense that they are saying nothing is wrong and the MRI was clean. Time will tell however as memories of Rodon, Dunning and Martin keep coming back. The dreaded clean bill of elbow health 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/23/2025 at 8:01 PM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Honestly, this would be the best time for him to go down with a long term injury. This team is dead for the next few seasons. Hopefully he's absolutely fine. Pitchers should immediately schedule surgery right after the draft. Just get r done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/24/2025 at 4:17 AM, Dick Allen said: Still very concerning. We have already seen several nothing to see here moments only to ultimately turn into major surgery. His velo is dipping and his elbow hurts. Something is wrong. I mean, I don’t care what the MRI says. Listen to the elbow. Shut him down. Unless there is a physical therapist that can contradict my paranoia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/25/2025 at 1:16 AM, Lip Man 1 said: Good in the sense that they are saying nothing is wrong and the MRI was clean. Time will tell however as memories of Rodon, Dunning and Martin keep coming back. Kopech was arguably the biggest blow to the rebuild when he went down...Dunning at least allowed them to trade for Lynn, who was good for about as long as Grandal before imploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/24/2025 at 5:43 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: They think it’s mechanical. We’ll see if they’re right If he already had the surgery, and presumably he had his delivery examined already, and the mechanics are still causing problems in the pros, does not inspire confidence in them finally working it out now. They talk like they already knew what his issue was, and we are still dealing with whatever inflammation this is causing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Kopech was arguably the biggest blow to the rebuild when he went down...Dunning at least allowed them to trade for Lynn, who was good for about as long as Grandal before imploding. Crochet was always a violent delivery guy iirc. The shoulder goes before the elbow usually. And it did. He is also on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 17 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: If he already had the surgery, and presumably he had his delivery examined already, and the mechanics are still causing problems in the pros, does not inspire confidence in them finally working it out now. They talk like they already knew what his issue was, and we are still dealing with whatever inflammation this is causing He was flying way open in his delivery and his stuff wasn't as good. That's why he needed to go to Arizona for biomechanics work. They didn't have an issue with delivery otherwise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He was flying way open in his delivery and his stuff wasn't as good. That's why he needed to go to Arizona for biomechanics work. They didn't have an issue with delivery otherwise No issue other than his stuff tanking. MOG. I can’t believe that elbow soreness is not at least a partial impetus for the biomechanics work without a timeline to work with. A pitcher flying open with a delivery is usually a team’s pitching coach’s job to fix Edited May 27 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 35 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: No issue other than his stuff tanking. MOG. I can’t believe that elbow soreness is not at least a partial impetus for the biomechanics work without a timeline to work with. I meant that his mechanics were off from what they were like before. Soreness was definitely a concern but he's fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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