26 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The Rays have always struggled to draw fans in St.Pete. After the novelty of the new stadium is over I wonder if the team is going to draw any better in Tampa.

1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:

They plan to break ground on the new stadium in September. It'll be an interesting few years coming up with the A's stadium already half built and opening in 2028, the Rays new stadium projected to be open in 2029, and the new Royals stadium (which looks very likely to happen at this point) being planned for 2031.....not to mention possibly two new expansion teams and stadiums by then too.

37 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

They plan to break ground on the new stadium in September. It'll be an interesting few years coming up with the A's stadium already half built and opening in 2028, the Rays new stadium projected to be open in 2029, and the new Royals stadium (which looks very likely to happen at this point) being planned for 2031.....not to mention possibly two new expansion teams and stadiums by then too.

What’s additionally interesting (at least to me) is the architecture going into these new stadiums. Vegas’ design is modeled after the Sydney Opera House. Tampa’s design has a fixed, transparent roof that I believe is the first of its kind in all of professional baseball. The Royals aren’t as innovative, as they’re mostly just remaking Kauffman, but I can respect the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” attitude.

Though a Comiskey-esque design (like the one on the formerly leaked Amtrak renders) would be an instant classic, maybe the Sox will join the former two in the new era of stadium designs.

3 hours ago, Mouthsider said:

What’s additionally interesting (at least to me) is the architecture going into these new stadiums. Vegas’ design is modeled after the Sydney Opera House. Tampa’s design has a fixed, transparent roof that I believe is the first of its kind in all of professional baseball. The Royals aren’t as innovative, as they’re mostly just remaking Kauffman, but I can respect the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” attitude.

Though a Comiskey-esque design (like the one on the formerly leaked Amtrak renders) would be an instant classic, maybe the Sox will join the former two in the new era of stadium designs.

Given Comiskey's historical impact on the franchise and how fondly people remember the place, I think the Sox would be crazy if they went with a "post-retro", modern looking design for a new stadium like in Tampa and Vegas. It's not like they'd be trying to manufacture a retro look out of whole cloth that could come off as inauthentic. That's not to say it would be a Comiskey clone, including things that absolutely would not work today, of course. I suppose with the Royals, almost their entire history has been in Kauffman (all but their first 4 seasons), so maybe that's why they seem to be going with a similar look for their proposed new stadium.

That being said, hopefully Amtrak and Canal Edge are working on addressing neighborhood concerns and ways to mitigate the impact of moving the maintenance yard to Bridgeport if they don't want to see their project delayed or shot down.

59 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Given Comiskey's historical impact on the franchise and how fondly people remember the place, I think the Sox would be crazy if they went with a "post-retro", modern looking design for a new stadium like in Tampa and Vegas. It's not like they'd be trying to manufacture a retro look out of whole cloth that could come off as inauthentic. That's not to say it would be a Comiskey clone, including things that absolutely would not work today, of course. I suppose with the Royals, almost their entire history has been in Kauffman (all but their first 4 seasons), so maybe that's why they seem to be going with a similar look for their proposed new stadium.

That being said, hopefully Amtrak and Canal Edge are working on addressing neighborhood concerns and ways to mitigate the impact of moving the maintenance yard to Bridgeport if they don't want to see their project delayed or shot down.

Not sure fondly is the right word for most of the 70s and 80s.

As a Sox fan, it was "our" stadium, but it never became part of the national fabric like Fenway, Yankee, Wrigley, Dodger Stadium etc.

I guess it is a totally different feeling for those who grew up in the 50s and 60s, when there were so many competitive Sox teams.

5 hours ago, WBWSF said:

The Rays have always struggled to draw fans in St.Pete. After the novelty of the new stadium is over I wonder if the team is going to draw any better in Tampa.

They will as most of the population is in that part of Tampa Bay and lot easier to get to than St. Pete and the Trop.

After the the magnetism of the new stadium wears off they will probably draw somewhere around 1.6 million a year, maybe 2 million with a good team in a pennant race.

4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

They will as most of the population is in that part of Tampa Bay and lot easier to get to than St. Pete and the Trop.

After the the magnetism of the new stadium wears off they will probably draw somewhere around 1.6 million a year, maybe 2 million with a good team in a pennant race.

I take it that this is the end of Orlando getting a MLB team.

1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

I take it that this is the end of Orlando getting a MLB team.

yeah, there's no way in hell that, after committing $2.3B to a new ballpark for a team that has a history of struggling to draw fans, that they'd turn around and plop down another MLB team 90 miles away. An Orlando team would cannibalize the Rays TV market, too.

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A couple of the local Chicago TV stations have showed how the citizens of Bridgeport and the Alderman are gathering to oppose the proposed Amtrak railyard in Bridgeport. If the railyard is not moved how would that affect the new baseball stadium in the South Loop? I can't believe the city would oppose the new railyard in Bridgeport. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

14 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

A couple of the local Chicago TV stations have showed how the citizens of Bridgeport and the Alderman are gathering to oppose the proposed Amtrak railyard in Bridgeport. If the railyard is not moved how would that affect the new baseball stadium in the South Loop? I can't believe the city would oppose the new railyard in Bridgeport. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

I’m not sure if the residents can prevent the railyard from moving, but if that land isn’t opened up, then there’ll be no land for a stadium. Ishbia’s whole plan hinges on relocating Amtrak’s facilities and rolling stock.

On 8/28/2026 at 1:45 PM, Mouthsider said:

What’s additionally interesting (at least to me) is the architecture going into these new stadiums. Vegas’ design is modeled after the Sydney Opera House. Tampa’s design has a fixed, transparent roof that I believe is the first of its kind in all of professional baseball. The Royals aren’t as innovative, as they’re mostly just remaking Kauffman, but I can respect the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” attitude.

Though a Comiskey-esque design (like the one on the formerly leaked Amtrak renders) would be an instant classic, maybe the Sox will join the former two in the new era of stadium designs.

A transparent roof, in Florida? Seems... I dunno.

Just now, Paulie4Pres said:

A transparent roof, in Florida? Seems... I dunno.

Gotta make this one Hurricane proof somehow

22 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:

A transparent roof, in Florida? Seems... I dunno.

Seems like the hot ass sun will make it hot as ass in the stadium during 90% of the season?

31 minutes ago, Mouthsider said:

I’m not sure if the residents can prevent the railyard from moving, but if that land isn’t opened up, then there’ll be no land for a stadium. Ishbia’s whole plan hinges on relocating Amtrak’s facilities and rolling stock.

If there is no land for the new stadium what happens after that? The new owner doesn't want to stay at the present location.

1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

If there is no land for the new stadium what happens after that? The new owner doesn't want to stay at the present location.

Assuming your belief that Ishbia wouldn't accept building a new stadium where the parking lots are right now if given no other choice, I'm sure he'd try to look someplace in the suburbs.

And let me shut down IMMEDIATELY your next post which would say something crazy along the lines of 'well I guess he'd move the team to Nashville..." 😆

53 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Assuming your belief that Ishbia wouldn't accept building a new stadium where the parking lots are right now if given no other choice, I'm sure he'd try to look someplace in the suburbs.

And let me shut down IMMEDIATELY your next post which would say something crazy along the lines of 'well I guess he'd move the team to Nashville..." 😆

He already knows the railyard will be moved to Bridgeport. He has the timeline in place. He didn't get to be a billionaire for no reason. It's just got to play out for the public and some palms to be greased. This is still Chicago.

14 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

He already knows the railyard will be moved to Bridgeport. He has the timeline in place. He didn't get to be a billionaire for no reason. It's just got to play out for the public and some palms to be greased. This is still Chicago.

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47 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

He already knows the railyard will be moved to Bridgeport. He has the timeline in place. He didn't get to be a billionaire for no reason. It's just got to play out for the public and some palms to be greased. This is still Chicago.

I hope you're right.

3 hours ago, WBWSF said:

If there is no land for the new stadium what happens after that? The new owner doesn't want to stay at the present location?

I went to the last home game with two other couples, inc a former Chicago Policeman, his wife and a few friends in one guys' Wagoneer. They heartily laughed when I asked if any of them or their kids would ever consider taking a train to anywhere downtown, especially at night. Hey, I won't be around to see what thet fellow wants to build but as I told my friends, I hate to see some guy from Detroit do what he proposes doing. It's pretty sad, but oh well.

4 hours ago, WBWSF said:

A couple of the local Chicago TV stations have showed how the citizens of Bridgeport and the Alderman are gathering to oppose the proposed Amtrak railyard in Bridgeport. If the railyard is not moved how would that affect the new baseball stadium in the South Loop? I can't believe the city would oppose the new railyard in Bridgeport. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

42 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

He already knows the railyard will be moved to Bridgeport. He has the timeline in place. He didn't get to be a billionaire for no reason. It's just got to play out for the public and some palms to be greased. This is still Chicago.

Anything is possible, but I think there's too much involved here for the residents to be able to totally kill this project. It's not simply moving the Amtrak facility to make way for a new stadium. Amtrak has already said they need to move their facility to have more room to modernize their operations and there's the matter of this potentially killing the Northwestern medical research campus proposal if Amtrak's move is stopped. Part of the federal money is going to much-needed repairs on viaducts in the area, too.

If anything, neighborhood and Ald. Lee's opposition could slow things down significantly. If Amtrak and Canal Edge want to head off that possibility, they'd be wise put some effort into coming up with ways to mitigate noise, light, air pollution impacts on the nearby residential areas. Those type of things should be feasible and not uncommon when addressing local concerns.

4 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said:

A transparent roof, in Florida? Seems... I dunno.

4 hours ago, AntMan26 said:

Seems like the hot ass sun will make it hot as ass in the stadium during 90% of the season?

Didn't the Astrodome run into problems with glass roof panels making it hard for outfields to track fly balls when that place first opened? I believe they had to paint over that glass. Wouldn't they have the same problem in Tampa?

26 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Didn't the Astrodome run into problems with glass roof panels making it hard for outfields to track fly balls when that place first opened? I believe they had to paint over that glass. Wouldn't they have the same problem in Tampa?

With a clear glass roof, the Chiefs' new stadium has many similarities to planned or proposed new stadiums for the Titans, Commanders, Broncos, Bears and Browns.

"Topped with 37,000 square meters of translucent EFTE panels, the stadium enhances visibility..."

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33 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Didn't the Astrodome run into problems with glass roof panels making it hard for outfields to track fly balls when that place first opened? I believe they had to paint over that glass. Wouldn't they have the same problem in Tampa?

That's what happened in Houston. They invented Astroturf to help that situation since when the roof panels were painted, the natural grass started to die off.

16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

With a clear glass roof, the Chiefs' new stadium has many similarities to planned or proposed new stadiums for the Titans, Commanders, Broncos, Bears and Browns.

"Topped with 37,000 square meters of translucent EFTE panels, the stadium enhances visibility..."

Yes, ETFE roof paneling and a stellar temperature regulating system is supposedly what’s going to prevent that stadium from turning into a greenhouse. Honestly, I think they can pull it off (for the right price at least).