wegner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 And that at bat drops Vinny's avg to .099 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Of course that weak ass contact probably means ballgame. The extra innings rule is so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Of course that weak ass contact probably means ballgame. The extra innings rule is so stupid. I cannot imagine a day that I do not hate Manfred ball. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, nrockway said: right, but he was initially on the Mets, then selected by the Phillies and traded to Tampa Bay. Tampa put him on waivers and the Sox claimed him. Unique path to be sure. It's a different situation than Shane Smith who would've returned to Milwaukee if the Sox 'waived' him. The question is simply: do the "Rule 5 rules" even apply to him? I stated it was my opinion that he's doing well and the MLB team "needs" him, I'm just wondering about the rule. At the same time, I'm speculating if it isn't better for future purposes when the team is actually good to try him as a starter. I think so, but maybe being a reliever for a terrible team doesn't preclude one from being a starting pitcher in the future. If they 'could' send him down, you wonder why they'd try to do it for Clevinger and not Vasil. You wonder a similar thing about Grant Taylor, but he might just straight up be a reliever. Yes, Rule 5 rules apply to Vasil. If a team wants to DFA or put a Rule 5 player in the minors, they have to put him through waivers. If another team takes him, Rule 5 rules now apply to the player with the claiming team. Only if the player clears waivers can the player return to the original team, and he comes off the 40-man, and the original team can put him back in the minors, if the pay the waiving team $50k. I'm not sure what you're talking about with Clevenger and Taylor. I'd imagine the plan is to work Vasil up to starting in the future. If they don't go on a wild shopping spree this winter, they're still going to need a good dozen starting pitchers to cover the bigs and AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 That's too bad, Alexander pitched well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Young guys will eventually learn how to win a game. Just need that to happen and to make the back end of the roster MUCH stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 2/24 Rangers with RISP....0.083 15 runners lob Edited June 14 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 7 minutes ago, JoshPR said: That's too bad, Alexander pitched well Yep that's a tough L for Alexander. Watching on gameday....any chance for Robert there or just hit too hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, wegner said: Yep that's a tough L for Alexander. Watching on gameday....any chance for Robert there or just hit too hard? Maybe he could have gotten a better jump, but probably not. It's impossible to tell with the awful camera angles in that stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Young guys will eventually learn how to win a game. Just need that to happen and to make the back end of the roster MUCH stronger. Seems like a problem since 2012...a lot of it has to do with lack of quality minor league depth and poor FA resource allocation with payrolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Young guys will eventually learn how to win a game. Just need that to happen and to make the back end of the roster MUCH stronger. They need upgrades across the board if we’re being honest. Even the guys on this roster we hope are on the next quality team are more likely lower-tier starting players 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, nrockway said: right, but he was initially on the Mets, then selected by the Phillies and traded to Tampa Bay. Tampa put him on waivers and the Sox claimed him. Unique path to be sure. It's a different situation than Shane Smith who would've returned to Milwaukee if the Sox 'waived' him. The question is simply: do the "Rule 5 rules" even apply to him? I stated it was my opinion that he's doing well and the MLB team "needs" him, I'm just wondering about the rule. At the same time, I'm speculating if it isn't better for future purposes when the team is actually good to try him as a starter. I think so, but maybe being a reliever for a terrible team doesn't preclude one from being a starting pitcher in the future. If they 'could' send him down, you wonder why they'd try to do it for Clevinger and not Vasil. You wonder a similar thing about Grant Taylor, but he might just straight up be a reliever. And, no, Smith wouldn't return to Milwaukee unless Shane Smith passed through waivers without being claimed. The same rules apply to both Smith and Vasil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Young guys will eventually learn how to win a game. Just need that to happen and to make the back end of the roster MUCH stronger. As we said earlier, rough couple of games for Chase. Growing pains but I was wondering earlier today if Sosa is the 2B of our future and not Meidroth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Seems like a problem since 2012...a lot of it has to do with lack of quality minor league depth and poor FA resource allocation with payrolls. Some of these FA signings make no sense. Noda and Capra are horrible players. For as bad as Elko looked most of the time, I still would rather see him at 1B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 That sucks, would have been a really heartening one to get. Gotta make contact in extras. No real issues with the levers Veneble pulled, most of them worked, and the ones that didn't weren't really in his control. The guys fought hard, just ran out of bodies. Also...it's a win in regulation if not for that ball 4 call to Seager. I'm still annoyed on behalf of Taylor's ERA. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Some of these FA signings make no sense. Noda and Capra are horrible players. For as bad as Elko looked most of the time, I still would rather see him at 1B. Constant waiver wire pickups do not a winner make....who knew? One team's trash is the shiny new penny for Getz. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Well back to doom and despair as the schedule gets challenging again. Nine consecutive losses at Globe Life. 7-30 road record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I saw this coming a mile away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 So awful in extra inning games 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 15 minutes ago, Soxfest said: So awful in extra inning games To be fair, they are complete bullshit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Think of all those years we coulda had Semien on our team. Another example of letting a star go in the name of tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 10 minutes ago, greg775 said: Think of all those years we coulda had Semien on our team. Another example of letting a star go in the name of tank. He got traded for the complete opposite. They traded for Samardzija trying to win. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 22 minutes ago, greg775 said: Think of all those years we coulda had Semien on our team. Another example of letting a star go in the name of tank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 23 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: He got traded for the complete opposite. They traded for Samardzija trying to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Sox now an incredible 4-17 in one run games, that's astonishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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