caulfield12 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) And they're certainly not building around power... https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/nba-finals-is-this-the-arrival-of-a-thunder-dynasty-in-a-copycat-league-okc-may-be-copycat-proof-180924051.html The White Sox will fall to 29th in stolen bases once you strip out Luis Robert's 22 bags. What exactly is their niche? Besides being yet another feeder team for the rest of MLB's contenders? Other than Brooks Baldwin...there's hardly a legit young prospect that even runs better than average. Maybe Bergolla Braden M. and Zavala. It's pretty clear they're not building around power...but why not speed/hustle/defense like Getz promised potential pitchers coming into 2024??? What happened to THAT? Where's our Sam Presti(gious)...? https://bookies.com/mlb/picks/2025-mlb-teams-ranked-by-age-oldest-to-youngest And then the average age of rostered Sox players is nearly 29...with 7 teams somehow below them. No excuse to be right there with the Twins and actually behind the Tigers (same goes for the moribund Rockies too). The A's Nats Marlins are all understandably there...but the playoff-competitive Cards Guardians Rays, too??? Edited June 23 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The CashMan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Until Jerry does not own the Sox, it is all moot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 That's their MO. Even if they have speed they have dumb base runners. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: That's their MO. Even if they have speed they have dumb base runners. Yeah...Meidroth is far from a burne,r but their second fastest/quickest young player, and has made a number of mistakes on the base paths. Baldwin arguably #1 in base running and defensive miscues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 No indicators they’re building around power either ayo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 13 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: No indicators they’re building around power either ayo https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/home-runs-per-game Ahead of just KC and Pittsburgh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 So in other words, there are no indicators they are building around a coherent strategy. Awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard Outside of Baldwin and Robert... Here's the Sox #3-8 guys Capra Slater Elko Amaya K.Lee Taylor None of them part of the next White Sox playoff team, when/if there is one eventually. Miguel Vargas is #9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: So in other words, there are no indicators they are building around a coherent strategy. Awesome. Even the Rockies are leading in June OPS for the NL. Not even sure the Braves would trade Acuna, Jr., for the entire 26 man White Sox roster. Probably not. Edited June 23 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 12 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: So in other words, there are no indicators they are building around a coherent strategy. Awesome. And they won't have any until new ownership takes over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: So in other words, there are no indicators they are building around a coherent strategy. Awesome. That's what I was thinking. I would think it should be pitching, since they seem to do that best, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 40 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Yeah...Meidroth is far from a burne,r but their second fastest/quickest young player, and has made a number of mistakes on the base paths. Baldwin arguably #1 in base running and defensive miscues. One thing I noticed watching fall league teams is other organizations are investing in speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 8 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: One thing I noticed watching fall league teams is other organizations are investing in speed. Meanwhile Getz's best plan so far has been Greg Jones. Who can't hit his way out of a phone booth. And now this Baker kid at AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 (edited) Can't let Smith pitch well into 30's for pitch count in one inning. Finally got out of it. Rodriguez has been terrible. Shutout coming lol. Edited June 23 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That's what I was thinking. I would think it should be pitching, since they seem to do that best, but who knows. not sure of that anymore either, then they have to move them to fill extreme weaknesses. In this age you can never have enough pitching because of the increasing amounts of TJ surgeries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: not sure of that anymore either, then they have to move them to fill extreme weaknesses. In this age you can never have enough pitching because of the increasing amounts of TJ surgeries. And then Davis Martin was someone a number of posters were looking to trade at the deadline. That's no longer possible with the long-term injury concerns. Clevinger next in line lol. Edited June 24 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 39 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: not sure of that anymore either, then they have to move them to fill extreme weaknesses. In this age you can never have enough pitching because of the increasing amounts of TJ surgeries. Agreed. And I think it’s more likely we get a top prospect arm for Robert than a bat. Not much else coming with that. Don’t actually think we will but more likely than a bat. Edited June 24 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I dont think they're building around speed but what kind of data is this: "The White Sox will fall to 29th in stolen bases once you strip out Luis Robert's 22 bags. " Okay? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Seems they are aiming for guys that don’t chase outside the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 They're very clearly targeting players who make good swing decisions and don’t chase. They know that they need power. Power costs money though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 13 hours ago, The CashMan said: Until Jerry does not own the Sox, it is all moot. If it were truly moot, there’d be no point in paying any attention to the team until then, yet here we all are anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 12 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I dont think they're building around speed but what kind of data is this: "The White Sox will fall to 29th in stolen bases once you strip out Luis Robert's 22 bags. " Okay? If you take away all the bases they've stolen, they'd have zero bases stolen. That's concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 9 minutes ago, WestEddy said: If you take away all the bases they've stolen, they'd have zero bases stolen. That's concerning. Is Luis Robert suddenly now on the next Sox playoff team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 12 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I dont think they're building around speed but what kind of data is this: "The White Sox will fall to 29th in stolen bases once you strip out Luis Robert's 22 bags. " Okay? https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/sprint-speed-team?season=2024&team= White Sox are alsof at 22nd here in average team sprint speed. And Baldwin/Robert are their two fastest...with both having "questionable" at best futures with the Sox. Players ranked #3-8 are all unlikely to be on the team next year. That leaves Vargas at #9 as their so-called speed merchants at first or 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 29.0 321 Capra, Vinny CWS 28 3B 38 4.36 28.3 322 Slater, Austin CWS 32 25 27.9 323 Elko, Tim CWS 26 1B 20 4.50 27.8 324 Amaya, Jacob CWS 26 SS 26 4.45 27.7 325 Lee, Korey CWS 26 C 16 27.7 326 Taylor, Michael A. CWS 34 RF 37 4.31 27.7 327 Vargas, Miguel CWS 25 3B 85 4.44 27.4 328 Benintendi, Andrew CWS 30 LF 62 4.36 27.0 329 Meidroth, Chase CWS 23 SS 89 4.44 27.0 330 Palacios, Joshua CWS 29 RF 43 4.47 26.8 Rk. Player Team Age Position Competitive Runs Bolts HP to 1B Sprint Speed (ft / sec) 331 Sosa, Lenyn CWS 25 2B 60 4.70 26.7 332 Rojas, Josh CWS 31 3B 36 4.42 26.3 333 Vaughn, Andrew CWS 27 1B 63 4.80 25.7 334 Tauchman, Mike CWS 34 RF 37 4.65 25.4 335 Maton, Nick CWS 28 DH 16 25.3 336 Quero, Edgar CWS 22 C 64 4.83 24.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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