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7/26/2025 - Cubs @ Sox game 2 - Horton v. Civale - 6:10 CDT

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17 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

I doubt baseball players are role models for kids these days, Maybe Ohtani

Oh they are. I was around travel kids 11-14 for five months and PCA is easily the most popular player in Illinois now.  

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18 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

They will be playing some you wish were subpar after our glorious false hope trade deadline.  As some teams forfeit their season and their prospects not ready,  the Sox will have more competition in the dumpster dive.  

I always have plenty to like while they're rebuilding. 

Rough night for my man Leasure.

Nice final audition from Civale; unless his attitude is just too much and makes it moot,

Most people are expecting some of the White Sox players to be moved at the trading deadline. Hopefully Jordan Leasure will be moved off this team.

They bounced back after that middle game in Tampa, will be a good test to see what they do tomorrow.

Maybe getting the offense/bullpen struggles all out in one game will turn out better than letting them trickle into a bunch of 1-2 run losses?

20 minutes ago, The Beast said:

They had Chicago police officers lining the area but I agree that he should have had more security. He sat by himself for a little while until Harold Baines finally came over and sat next to him. I thought, “old money must be lonely sitting alone.” He did get handshakes and greetings from some of the 2005 team though.

I can't hate the guy because he's not a good baseball owner. He's running his business as a way to provide for his kids and employees. I'm sure lots of the regular people he has kept on for many years love the guy. 

He's just conservative with not wanting to pile up debt which is a sound way to run most any business, just not a baseball team. 

Edited by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

10 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

They bounced back after that middle game in Tampa, will be a good test to see what they do tomorrow.

Maybe getting the offense/bullpen struggles all out in one game will turn out better than letting them trickle into a bunch of 1-2 run losses?

Winning one of the 3 was realistic , 2 would be exceptional. 

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I can't hate the guy because he's not a good baseball owner. He's running his business as a way to provide for his kids and employees. I'm sure lots of the regular people he has kept on for many years love the guy. 

He's just conservative with not wanting to pile up debt which is a sound way to run most any business, just not a baseball team. 

Historically he has not wanted to pile up the debt but perhaps Getz sold him on the rebuild with a tight budget and tear down, as well as a lack of spending with the looming strike and labor negotiations?

17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Winning one of the 3 was realistic , 2 would be exceptional. 

True, but it was nice to dream of a sweep for a day.

I do think if Vargas comes through in the 1st, this would've been a different ballgame.

27 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Historically he has not wanted to pile up the debt but perhaps Getz sold him on the rebuild with a tight budget and tear down, as well as a lack of spending with the looming strike and labor negotiations?

I find it hard to believe JR doesn't run things exactly the way he wants to. He's not taking business advice from Chris Getz. He knows his life is nearly over and he always said his sons would sell the Sox after he died. 

Getz was hired because he was right there and cheap . So JR probably liked him and he was a hire of covenience. I've said many times after the failed rebuild that once the Ishbias got involved JR entered into the estate planning phase of his life. 

The Ishbia's were minority owners with minimal invested but looking to buy a team so they made a play for the Twins but then JR said look guys if you rather buy the Sox than the Twins let's work something out because the Sox are worth more and we are more solvent than the Twins. 

So if JR was the key figure in the Ishbias being the next owners , I'd like to say thank you at least for that too. Not  in a sarcastic way because it should mean the Sox will have very rich owners soon enough. 

Edited by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

Back to the team I’m used to.

Sox take the rubber game tomorrow !!

26 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Historically he has not wanted to pile up the debt but perhaps Getz sold him on the rebuild with a tight budget and tear down, as well as a lack of spending with the looming strike and labor negotiations?

Jerry was going to cut.  Revenues crashed while expenses blew up from like 2020 to 2022.  2025 was the cherry on the sundae with on top with no TV money for half a season.  They picked the wrong direction with every decision they made starting with the LaRussa hire, and they paid for it, quite literally. 

Taylor opening for Burke tomorrow, which would explain him not being used tonight.

Burke has pitched much better with an opener this season (3 outings).

Should be a BP day for the Cubs, so hopefully this was just a blip for the bats.

23 minutes ago, wegner said:

True, but it was nice to dream of a sweep for a day.

I do think if Vargas comes through in the 1st, this would've been a different ballgame.

That dream stayed alive for 14 of the possible 27 innings. Not too shabby against a team generally considered to be much better than you. 

14 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

Sox take the rubber game tomorrow !!

That's the spirit ! Don't bet your house though.

16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I find it hard to believe JR doesn't run things exactly the way he wants to. He's not taking business advice from Chris Getz. He knows his life is nearly over and he always said his sons would sell the Sox after he died. 

Getz was hired because he was right there and cheap . So JR probably liked him and he was a hire of covenience. I've said many times after the failed rebuild that once the Ishbias got involved JR entered into the estate planning phase of his life. 

The Ishbia's were minority owners with minimal invested but looking to buy a team so they made a play for the Twins but then JR said look guys if you rather buy the Sox than the Twins let's work something out because the Sox are worth more and we are more solvent than the Twins. 

So if JR was the key figure in the Ishbias being the next owners , I'd like to say thank you at least for that too. Not  in a sarcastic way because it should mean the Sox will have very rich owners soon enough. 

Let’s hope the Ishbias don’t handle the Sox the way they did the Suns. That Durant trade left that team barren of talent and draft capital for some time.

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Jerry was going to cut.  Revenues crashed while expenses blew up from like 2020 to 2022.  2025 was the cherry on the sundae with on top with no TV money for half a season.  They picked the wrong direction with every decision they made starting with the LaRussa hire, and they paid for it, quite literally. 

Is it fair to write to Boyer to b**** about the Comcast deal, where I had them on cable with the package I have, lost the channel and then they upped the package I need to watch the games on my cable package? And maybe see what progress could be made about getting the games on YouTube TV instead of watching them on the TV App or switching to another cable and internet provider which would be a pain?

22 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Let’s hope the Ishbias don’t handle the Sox the way they did the Suns. That Durant trade left that team barren of talent and draft capital for some time.

The thing about MLB is you can just throw money at problems and if/when that doesn't work you can throw some more. There's no having to navigate cap space or match salaries in trades. Plus you can't mortgage your future in the same way because you can't trade non-comp draft picks.

You could still make shortsighted trades of prospects I guess, but I'm not going to mind Ishbia cash being available to keep/acquire/maximize talent.

2 hours ago, joejoesox said:

lmfao who didn't see this?

f*** you Jordan Leasure, change your name to Jane

This is a sexist post.

2 hours ago, PaleAleSox said:

What year is it? Good lord. 

Fr, fr.  He is a sexist.  I'm offended.

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You can't say that , it's sexist. 

Thank you.  We must deride that every time it happens.  Highly offensive.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

There is a Jane Leasure out there somewhere who is personally insulted you compared her to Jordan...  and I don't blame her.  Why is Jane catching strays when Jordan is the one who sucks?

Now call him a sexist like you called me, bruv.  We're all offended here by his chicanery.

 

Going forward, what are we not allowed to say.  Can we call players girliemen, or Nancies or even fruitcakes.  WSI were sticks in mud, this place need not follow suit.

 

There was a popular shirt I'm sure you remember that Sox fans wore that said "Wrigley Field:  Chicago's biggest g** bar".  Or the joke "Why do g** guys do it doggy****.  So they can both watch the cubs game."  Or what do cards and cub fans have in common.  They both love albert pujols.  and so on, there's a lot more that "wouldn't be allowed today".  Where do we draw the line

 

It's not just our side either, cub fans were chanting "Pudge loves men" on Waveland during the 2003 nlcs.  a heads up would be nice on what's allowable.  WSI is barren now because they ban everything.  Free speech is a good thing.

20 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Let’s hope the Ishbias don’t handle the Sox the way they did the Suns. That Durant trade left that team barren of talent and draft capital for some time.

Is it fair to write to Boyer to b**** about the Comcast deal, where I had them on cable with the package I have, lost the channel and then they upped the package I need to watch the games on my cable package? And maybe see what progress could be made about getting the games on YouTube TV instead of watching them on the TV App or switching to another cable and internet provider which would be a pain?

Tell him to put CHSN back on 62.2, I hate that Stadium channel.  The mma is crap, MLW is crap, bananaball blows, and that amateur flag gridirion league they show at 4am is absolute crap as well.  Plus, they also show Vince Russo's podcast, as if anyone give a F what that fool Vinny Ru has to say.  Worst channel ever.  We want CHSN back, please tell Brooks Bald, I mean Boyer this.  Thanks.

 

as far as tonight's game goes, it sucked.  Petrina crow armstrong is a chump.  Jane Horton was too hard to hit.  We shouldn't be losing to Craigrina Counsell's team, how embarrassing.  We're only up 1 in the all time series now (never discount 1906).  If we lose tomorrow, we lose the series 1-5, which I don't think ever happened before.  This is terrible, we dominated them from 1985-97, WTF happened now.

 

(I was purposely exaggerating with the names, btw, before anyone is ready to REEEEE.  Relax.)

11 minutes ago, Sox guy said:

This is a sexist post.

Fr, fr.  He is a sexist.  I'm offended.

Thank you.  We must deride that every time it happens.  Highly offensive.

Now call him a sexist like you called me, bruv.  We're all offended here by his chicanery.

 

Going forward, what are we not allowed to say.  Can we call players girliemen, or Nancies or even fruitcakes.  WSI were sticks in mud, this place need not follow suit.

 

There was a popular shirt I'm sure you remember that Sox fans wore that said "Wrigley Field:  Chicago's biggest g** bar".  Or the joke "Why do g** guys do it doggy****.  So they can both watch the cubs game."  Or what do cards and cub fans have in common.  They both love albert pujols.  and so on, there's a lot more that "wouldn't be allowed today".  Where do we draw the line

 

It's not just our side either, cub fans were chanting "Pudge loves men" on Waveland during the 2003 nlcs.  a heads up would be nice on what's allowable.  WSI is barren now because they ban everything.  Free speech is a good thing.

Tell him to put CHSN back on 62.2, I hate that Stadium channel.  The mma is crap, MLW is crap, bananaball blows, and that amateur flag gridirion league they show at 4am is absolute crap as well.  Plus, they also show Vince Russo's podcast, as if anyone give a F what that fool Vinny Ru has to say.  Worst channel ever.  We want CHSN back, please tell Brooks Bald, I mean Boyer this.  Thanks.

 

as far as tonight's game goes, it sucked.  Petrina crow armstrong is a chump.  Jane Horton was too hard to hit.  We shouldn't be losing to Craigrina Counsell's team, how embarrassing.  We're only up 1 in the all time series now (never discount 1906).  If we lose tomorrow, we lose the series 1-5, which I don't think ever happened before.  This is terrible, we dominated them from 1985-97, WTF happened now.

 

(I was purposely exaggerating with the names, btw, before anyone is ready to REEEEE.  Relax.)

Your posts are lukewarm dogwater.  Maybe they are appealing if you have nothing better and are thirsty,  but almost all aspire to something better. 

The need to be out offended is played out.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Oh they are. I was around travel kids 11-14 for five months and PCA is easily the most popular player in Illinois now.  

Yep.  My kids are older and play football but both of my close friends’ younger kids that play LL baseball want to be PCA.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Taylor opening for Burke tomorrow, which would explain him not being used tonight.

Burke has pitched much better with an opener this season (3 outings).

Should be a BP day for the Cubs, so hopefully this was just a blip for the bats.

Wouldn’t surprise me if, long-term , Vasil and Taylor are in the rotation and Burke and Martin are in the pen. 
For now, Vasil and Taylor need development; Eisert et al need to be showcased.  So the bullpen usage is likely to be a bit odd.

Leasure has been a major disappointment. 

Most embarrassing home run call ever: After Tauchmann homered (nice treat for the fans to see the exploding scoreboard in the 9th), our play by play guy bellowed: "This is where the comeback starts for the Sox."

Cmon, it was 6-0 and that made it 6-1. Tell us what it was ... a cute reward for sox fans who stuck around. Geez. I know he's paid by the team but that's a homer call.

5 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Rough night for my man Leasure.

Nice final audition from Civale; unless his attitude is just too much and makes it moot,

Does Civale have a bad attitude. Serious question. I am not aware of any controversy but you could be.

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