If Ishbia gave us one early present, who would excite you to add to this not ready team

[TheFutureIsNear]

Just for the fun of it- Dylan Cease 

[WestEddy]

46 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That is his record in recent years, if that's a flex, so be it.  The Sox fell apart under his watch.  There were also collapses in Arizona and Anaheim. 

LaRussa's not a GM, nor is he a POBO (Prez of Baseball Ops). He was a good manager and can probably give a good assessment of players in the minors, which is where he has mostly been seen this last summer. If he's in Reinsdorf's ear, maybe he's whispering "Stay away and let Getzie do his job". That works for me. 

[caulfield12]

16 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

LaRussa's not a GM, nor is he a POBO (Prez of Baseball Ops). He was a good manager and can probably give a good assessment of players in the minors, which is where he has mostly been seen this last summer. If he's in Reinsdorf's ear, maybe he's whispering "Stay away and let Getzie do his job". That works for me. 

There's not much evidence he and Dave Stewart did a good job in AZ a decade+ ago.  Summarily fired.

Same with the Angels for TLR...

Edited October 13 by caulfield12

[southsider2k5]

17 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

LaRussa's not a GM, nor is he a POBO (Prez of Baseball Ops). He was a good manager and can probably give a good assessment of players in the minors, which is where he has mostly been seen this last summer. If he's in Reinsdorf's ear, maybe he's whispering "Stay away and let Getzie do his job". That works for me. 

He WAS a good manager back in the steroid era.  That was decades ago.  The rest of it is exactly the type of stuff he has failed at. 

[WestEddy]

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

He WAS a good manager back in the steroid era.  That was decades ago.  The rest of it is exactly the type of stuff he has failed at. 

Sure. Has he failed at sitting in the stands at a Cannonballers' game? That's all I've heard of him in the last year. 

[southsider2k5]

7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Sure. Has he failed at sitting in the stands at a Cannonballers' game? That's all I've heard of him in the last year. 

Are you giving credit to Tony LaRussa for Kannapolis this season?

You invent the weirdest strawmen.

[caulfield12]

https://medium.com/@jenn.livingston97/dave-stewart-fired-as-gm-of-the-diamond-backs-c50ceb1d6388

Took AZ just two years to fire TLR...after "cleaning house" and making some controversial moves that backfired.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2281764-yasmani-tomas-signing-a-bold-first-move-for-d-backs-larissa-stewart-duncan-era

Blew more money on bad Cuban contracts than even Marco Paddy.

 

Here's another wasted deal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoan_López

 

Also, Shelby Miller for Ender Inciarte/Dansby Swanson didn't work out very well either.

Edited October 13 by caulfield12

[bmags]

I love how facing an offseason where Josh Naylor is a north star that will be talked about ad nauseum, fans are given a choice to live in an alternate reality where we went after impactful players, and are instead like "No thanks, I'll stick with Naylor chief"

[Bob Sacamano]

2 hours ago, bmags said:

I love how facing an offseason where Josh Naylor is a north star that will be talked about ad nauseum, fans are given a choice to live in an alternate reality where we went after impactful players, and are instead like "No thanks, I'll stick with Naylor chief"

I think it’s more because we know the reality: they’ll spend yet again in the C/D tier free agent pool.
 

My wish is Bieber though.

[nrockway]

12 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

He WAS a good manager back in the steroid era.  That was decades ago.  The rest of it is exactly the type of stuff he has failed at. 

he was arguably a better manager during the amphetamines era. are we calling it that?

[southsider2k5]

24 minutes ago, nrockway said:

he was arguably a better manager during the amphetamines era. are we calling it that?

Who is "we"?  Call it what you like.

[fathom]

1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I think it’s more because we know the reality: they’ll spend yet again in the C/D tier free agent pool.
 

My wish is Bieber though.

More like the F market. Be ready to be shocked at how low the payroll is

[caulfield12]

18 minutes ago, fathom said:

More like the F market. Be ready to be shocked at how low the payroll is

How shocking is it going to be?

We were already 29th.

All they have to do is go lower than the Marlins...

 

Alcantara E.Cabrera and Bender around $23 million.

Nick Fortes, Braxton Garrett and Jesús Sánchez only others between $1.5-2 million.

 

The White Sox obviously have Robert and Benintendi...that's around $35 million or whatever.

Edited October 13 by caulfield12

[Kyyle23]

2 hours ago, nrockway said:

he was arguably a better manager during the amphetamines era. are we calling it that?

No manager seemed to benefit more from amphetamines and steroids than TLR.  lol he managed some all time juicers 

[almagest]

15 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

No manager seemed to benefit more from amphetamines and steroids than TLR.  lol he managed some all time juicers 

See that's the problem. TLR should've gotten Eloy Robert and Moncada on the good stuff. Definitely some HGH to help with muscle recovery.

[Dick Allen]

I always like Naylor as a player, and finding out he stole 30 bases with the 2nd slowest sprint speed in MLB, made me appreciate him even more, but there is no way that body ages well.

Edited October 13 by Dick Allen

[Kyyle23]

2 minutes ago, almagest said:

See that's the problem. TLR should've gotten Eloy Robert and Moncada on the good stuff. Definitely some HGH to help with muscle recovery.

“Have you ever heard of BALCO?  I know a guy…”

[Bob Sacamano]

34 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I always like Naylor as a player, and finding out he stole 30 bases with the 2nd slowest sprint speed in MLB, made me appreciate him even more, but there is no way that body ages well.

Yeah and guy is only 28. It's hard to predict what his next deal will look like but if I had to guess, maybe 4 years tops? Idk hard to guess.

[Tnetennba]

2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah and guy is only 28. It's hard to predict what his next deal will look like but if I had to guess, maybe 4 years tops? Idk hard to guess.

I can see 4 guaranteed with a few options. His body type typically doesn’t age well, and even if he were the outlier, it’s still a tough gamble. He’s a good but not great player, and I don’t see teams paying for front end production that doesn’t outweigh paying for the backend decline. 

[WestEddy]

8 hours ago, bmags said:

I love how facing an offseason where Josh Naylor is a north star that will be talked about ad nauseum, fans are given a choice to live in an alternate reality where we went after impactful players, and are instead like "No thanks, I'll stick with Naylor chief"

Well, the parameters were $160, and one player. I don't think there's one player who puts this team over the top, and I was thinking he's young enough to grow with this group. Maybe Murakami. Just listened to the FutureSox podcast. Neither of these two are gonna break the bank, most likely. 

[Bob Sacamano]

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Well, the parameters were $160, and one player. I don't think there's one player who puts this team over the top, and I was thinking he's young enough to grow with this group. Maybe Murakami. Just listened to the FutureSox podcast. Neither of these two are gonna break the bank, most likely. 

Good point. This doesn't get you Tucker or even Bellinger.

[caulfield12]

14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Well, the parameters were $160, and one player. I don't think there's one player who puts this team over the top, and I was thinking he's young enough to grow with this group. Maybe Murakami. Just listened to the FutureSox podcast. Neither of these two are gonna break the bank, most likely. 

Murakami might have fallen from $300 to the $225-250 million range, having been injured for most of 2025.

[WBWSF]

I should write Ishbia a letter  requesting to be interviewed for the  White Sox GM job. I've written JR in the past about wanting an  Interview for the GM job but never received a response from him. Perhaps Ishbia will give me that interview. I would give him an interview he would never forget.

[southsider2k5]

12 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I should write Ishbia a letter  requesting to be interviewed for the  White Sox GM job. I've written JR in the past about wanting an  Interview for the GM job but never received a response from him. Perhaps Ishbia will give me that interview. I would give him an interview he would never forget.

I think Jerry is more of the guy who could hire an utterly unqualified guy for the GM job.  Hopefully Ishbia lays that tradition to rest.

[caulfield12]

35 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I should write Ishbia a letter  requesting to be interviewed for the  White Sox GM job. I've written JR in the past about wanting an  Interview for the GM job but never received a response from him. Perhaps Ishbia will give me that interview. I would give him an interview he would never forget.

What's your USP as a candidate?