Sox hire Carlos Rodriguez for Assistant GM role

[Chicago White Sox]

16 minutes ago, oldsox said:

I can't help wondering if anyone besides Getz pulled the trigger on this hire. If it was all Getz, then good for him.

Who besides Getz would hire an Assistant GM?  Are you suggesting Jerry or Ishbia might have played a role in pushing this?

[oldsox]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Who besides Getz would hire an Assistant GM?  Are you suggesting Jerry or Ishbia might have played a role in pushing this?

The thought entered my mind.

[nrockway]

8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Here's the HUGE elephant in the room that was excised from his official bios.

Both a plus on the scouting board, but a huge minus on the character/maturity/background side of things, quite obviously.

It turned the fate of the entire Rays' organization around, and led dealing most of their core veterans away the last 2-3 seasons.

 

"Wander Franco, who hails from Bani, Dominican Republic, was scouted and signed by the Rays' director of international scouting Carlos Rodriguez and Dominican Republic scouting supervisor Danny Santana."

lol they signed him when he was 16, is one supposed to predict that a child may end up being a pedophile years later?

[Chicago White Sox]

Just now, oldsox said:

The thought entered my mind.

I’m guessing this was all Getz, but Ishbia pushing for more smart baseball minds would be a good thing as well.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

I can’t say I know much of anything about this guy, but from the looks of it, it seems like he is more qualified to be the GM than Getz is.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 minute ago, nrockway said:

lol they signed him when he was 16, is one supposed to predict that a child may end up being a pedophile years later?

Just ignore him on this one…it was a ridiculous take and should probably be deleted to avoid giving it further attention.

[hogan873]

7 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

I can’t say I know much of anything about this guy, but from the looks of it, it seems like he is more qualified to be the GM than Getz is.

Get has surrounded himself with people who are more qualified than him.  That's a good thing, especially if he listens to them, which he seems to be doing.  Could bite him in the ass later, though, as there are several folks now who could easily replace him if Ishbia makes a change when he takes over.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

Not sure I can get too excited when super star Chris Getz was also our assistant GM and even his greatness couldn't overcome a tough situation.

[PaleAleSox]

4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Not sure I can get too excited when super star Chris Getz was also our assistant GM and even his greatness couldn't overcome a tough situation.

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

[caulfield12]

40 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Just ignore him on this one…it was a ridiculous take and should probably be deleted to avoid giving it further attention.

If it's so ridiculous, why is there no mention of it anywhere in his bio?

Wander Franco was a generational talent, his biggest signing ever and the first $100+ million contract for the Rays.

Obviously it wasn't Rodriguez's fault...anymore than Sherrone Moore's delfish individual actions can only be blamed on himself and not Harbaugh/UM.

From having lived in that Latin American world, one can certainly see everyday the temptations and potential snares that are out there for young and rich athletes who transformed entire villages with unimagined wealth virtually overnight.

But sometimes it's also just time to move on for both sides.  A fresh start. The same thing kind of gut check reassessments happened in the Marlins' organization when Jose Fernandez passed away. There are a number of individuals who felt responsible then, all the way up to the owner's box.

At any rate, Rodriguez would probably tell you the same exact thing after 16 years with the same organization.  Time for a change and challenging new opportunity.

Edited 9 hours ago by caulfield12

[Lukakke Appling]

6 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

NO! Everything he does is s%*# or everything he does is awesome! There is no room in-between for independent rational thought. I thought you knew this. 

[caulfield12]

It will fun to now shade every Sox transaction with Friedman/Rays-colored glasses from this point onwards.

We did it with McKinven visit a vis Milwaukee players and Barfield on the ill-fated Mena deal.

There will be the same debates behind every good and bad move depending on if you want to stake a position...just like the ubiquitous Hahn vs. KW inquisitions that went around in interminable circles.

[WhiteSox2023]

17 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

That may be how Rodriguez feels in a year.

[WhiteSox2023]

21 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If it's so ridiculous, why is there no mention of it anywhere in his bio?

Wander Franco was a generational talent, his biggest signing ever and the first $100+ million contract for the Rays.

Obviously it wasn't Rodriguez's fault...anymore than Sherrone Moore's delfish individual actions can only be blamed on himself and not Harbaugh/UM.

From having lived in that Latin American world, one can certainly see everyday the temptations and potential snares that are out there for young and rich athletes who transformed entire villages with unimagined wealth virtually overnight.

But sometimes it's also just time to move on for both sides.  A fresh start. The same thing kind of gut check reassessments happened in the Marlins' organization when Jose Fernandez passed away. There are a number of individuals who felt responsible then, all the way up to the owner's box.

At any rate, Rodriguez would probably tell you the same exact thing after 16 years with the same organization.  Time for a change and challenging new opportunity.

If you taught some kid that turned into a pedophile, would you publicize that you taught the kid on your LinkedIn page?  And would it somehow be your fault that the kid grew up to be a pedophile?  You still aren’t making much sense here.

Edited 9 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[Sleepy Harold]

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When his hire is completed, Rodriguez is expected to also hold the title of assistant general manager with the White Sox, a front office designation also held by Josh Barfield (hired in September 2023) and Jin Wong (January 2024). The team has yet to formally announce the addition, but are expected to leverage Rodriguez's wide-ranging experience for a role that touches everything from aiding the build-out of the White Sox's new academy in the Dominican Republic, enhancing the team's relationships with players and agents, to helping manage their 40-man roster decisions.

Fegan updated his piece with some clarity on the role Rodriguez is set to have with the Sox. 

[southsider2k5]

Glad to hear the Sox finally poaching productive organizations for talent!  Maybe Jerry is finally staying out of the day to day.

[southsider2k5]

34 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

To be fair, the biggest moron of all still owns the team and is in charge. 

[southsider2k5]

9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Here's the HUGE elephant in the room that was excised from his official bios.

Both a plus on the scouting board, but a huge minus on the character/maturity/background side of things, quite obviously.

It turned the fate of the entire Rays' organization around, and led dealing most of their core veterans away the last 2-3 seasons.

 

"Wander Franco, who hails from Bani, Dominican Republic, was scouted and signed by the Rays' director of international scouting Carlos Rodriguez and Dominican Republic scouting supervisor Danny Santana."

You realize as a long term teacher yourself you have certainly taught numerous criminals,  including pedophiles.  It's the law of large numbers over time.  

[Dick Allen]

I used to work with a guy named Carlos Rodriquez. We would always greet him by singing Viva Las Vegas but substituting his name for Viva Las Vegas. 

[Lukakke Appling]

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

You realize as a long term teacher yourself you have certainly taught numerous criminals,  including pedophiles.  It's the law of large numbers over time.  

Yeah, I don’t think scouting and signing a dude who would go on to be the consensus #1 prospect and all-star SS is the elephant in the room he thinks it is. 

[Chicago White Sox]

26 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

What’s funny is we now know with certainty that KW & Hahn hadn’t invested in the technology & analytics to have a successful player development function, yet many here seem to feel that’s all somehow Getz’s fault.  We know the results from that function sucked during his tenure as its head…that is perfectly evident.  And during that time I certainly blamed him for the poor results.  But when seeing all the major infrastructure changes made since becoming GM, it’s easier to believe he was handcuffed by a pair of leaders above who have proven to be incompetent.

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

You’ve never had a job where a moron was in charge and you couldn’t do anything about it?

Everybody has always gone silent when I've posed the question. In interviews, do they tell the prospective boss that they've worked for a moron, so they're fated to make the same bad decisions the bad boss did? 

[caulfield12]

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What’s funny is we now know with certainty that KW & Hahn hadn’t invested in the technology & analytics to have a successful player development function, yet many here seem to feel that’s all somehow Getz’s fault.  We know the results from that function sucked during his tenure as its head…that is perfectly evident.  And during that time I certainly blamed him for the poor results.  But when seeing all the major infrastructure changes made since becoming GM, it’s easier to believe he was handcuffed by a pair of leaders above who have proven to be incompetent.

KW stopped caring, simply got acclimated to a comfortable executive lifestyle with all the perks (2005's long shelf life) and Hahn just never had the eye for talent.

Rodriguez was the first to sign an eventual Brazilian major leaguer in Yan Gomes.

That was at the same time the White Sox were going after Andre Rienzo and Anderson Gomes, middle of the Wilder scandal days when Jerry Krause was also scouting Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia.

[caulfield12]

Just now, WestEddy said:

Everybody has always gone silent when I've posed the question. In interviews, do they tell the prospective boss that they've worked for a moron, so they're fated to make the same bad decisions the bad boss did? 

Except those morons went to Stanford Northwestern/Kellogg Harvard Law and Michigan.

Not morons...just not well suited to working together as an executive team and sharing decision making power when KW and Paddy still wanted to overrule Hahn on talent evaluation/trades.

[SoxAce]

We hired a guy from a winning organization? An organization who also does not spend (in FA) but puts their spending resources in their farm system and can help prospects develop their ass off? What is this?! Love the hire.