LUIS ROBERT TRADED

[WhiteSox2023]

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I guess Getz was lying when he stated on multiple occasions just how much the White Sox wanted Robert to be their CF.  I guess the opportunity to acquire Acuna with little power, low OBP and the ability to play 2B was too good to pass up. 

Getz’s big talking bluster about not trading Robert without getting true value for him was pretty epic, considering he finally just accepted the oft-rumored crappy Mets offer of Acuna that we have heard about for almost a year.  🤣

Edited 1 hour ago by WhiteSox2023

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I mostly see non-Sox fans saying that the Sox held onto Robert for too long before finally trading him at his lowest value, which is exactly what Getz did.

Sure but outside of 2023, it was basically impossible to trade him with the timing. He was bad and kept getting hurt. I’m guessing the offers have been like this for a while. 
 

Ideally the Sox would have thrown in money to get something better but that’s asking way too much. 

[WhiteSox2023]

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Sure but outside of 2023, it was basically impossible to trade him with the timing. He was bad and kept getting hurt. I’m guessing the offers have been like this for a while. 
 

Ideally the Sox would have thrown in money to get something better but that’s asking way too much. 

Like I said, Getz was promoted to GM with Robert coming off of his best season in 2023.  How does it make sense to immediately start a rebuild and not trade his best asset?  Robert was never going to be around for the next contending Sox team.  Getz then traded his best asset in Crochet one year later.

Getz got all the credit in the world for selling Crochet high but people seem to forget that he could have done the exact same thing with Robert.

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2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Like I said, Getz was promoted to GM with Robert coming off of his best season in 2023.  How does it make sense to immediately start a rebuild and not trade his best asset?  Robert was never going to be around for the next contending Sox team.  Getz then traded his best asset in Crochet one year later.

Traded Crochet too quickly and waited too long on Robert. 

[WhiteSox2023]

5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Traded Crochet too quickly and waited too long on Robert. 

I’m not sure I would argue the former, but definitely the latter.  But there is some irony to moving Crochet so quickly because you might not think he can hold up physically as a starter but at the same time you hang onto an injury-prone guy in Robert for so long.

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8 hours ago, WestEddy said:

"This" vs. nothing. I'll take it. 

This you?

"I'm coming around to the thought that the White Sox aren't repeatedly marketing Robert and failing, but they made the decision that he's the best option as their CF, and if another team wants to change their plans, it's going to cost them."

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

A year ago I posited Acuña and Baty felt like a fair return for Robert (was crucified for this take). This return is notably worse.

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1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m not sure I would argue the former, but definitely the latter.  But there is some irony to moving Crochet so quickly because you might not think he can hold up physically as a starter but then hanging on to an injury prone guy in Robert for so long.

I mean.... they traded Crochet and then he went on to be the 2nd best pitcher in MLB and led the league in innings pitched. They traded him because of his injury risk and then he was the most durable in baseball.

No idea how anyone wouldn't argue the former, especially since I called it from the second he was traded.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Payroll sits at 67 million. Lowest in baseball. We had a higher payroll 22 years ago, for reference. 

[WhiteSox2023]

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I mean.... they traded Crochet and then he went on to be the 2nd best pitcher in MLB and led the league in innings pitched. They traded him because of his injury risk and then he was the most durable in baseball.

No idea how anyone wouldn't argue the former, especially since I called it from the second he was traded.

The Sox were worried about Crochet holding up as a starter like you said, but at least they sold him high and got a good return for him.  Crochet staying healthy and getting even better with the Red Sox is a big of hindsight.

Robert was just traded for the next Leury Garcia.

Big difference with these two trades.

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4 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Payroll sits at 67 million. Lowest in baseball. We had a higher payroll 22 years ago, for reference. 

Nah, now that this team signed Murakami, I heard they were all in!

[WhiteSox2023]

4 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Payroll sits at 67 million. Lowest in baseball. We had a higher payroll 22 years ago, for reference. 

Thanks for sharing.  I thought it was at $72 million.

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1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Sox were worried about Crochet holding up as a starter like you said, but at least they sold him high and got a good return for him.  Crochet staying healthy and getting even better with the Red Sox is a big of hindsight.

Robert was just traded for the next Leury Garcia.

Big difference with these two trades.

Hindsight? Lol, pal, ive been showing data and reasons crochet was a top 3 arm in baseball since his 5th start with the team. 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

8 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

It's wild what free agents are going for, and we still sucked hind tit with Robert, refusing to pick up cash to the end to get an actual return. 

Remember when we argued last winter about Robert’s theoretical free agent value? And you said he was easily worth as much as Bellinger or more? Yea…

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Sox were worried about Crochet holding up as a starter like you said, but at least they sold him high and got a good return for him.  Crochet staying healthy and getting even better with the Red Sox is a big of hindsight.

Robert was just traded for the next Leury Garcia.

Big difference with these two trades.

So he is going to hit a playoff homer? Hell yeah. 

[WhiteSox2023]

6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Hindsight? Lol, pal, ive been showing data and reasons crochet was a top 3 arm in baseball since his 5th start with the team. 

I’m not saying you weren’t right.  But the Sox are risk averse to the extreme when it comes to pitchers.  They would rather trade him for a good return of young cheaper prospects than worry about having to eventually pay him the big bucks and him getting injured all the time.  This is the culture the owner built.

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[Buehrle>Wood]

10 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Payroll sits at 67 million. Lowest in baseball. We had a higher payroll 22 years ago, for reference. 

And the Sox marketing team looked at this and are leaning into the meme

 

 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

7 hours ago, almagest said:

No idea why you pick up the option if this is the return. A best-case bullpen guy and a 4th outfielder? Bleh.

Honestly, it’s better than nothing

[ChiSoxFanMike]

Awful trade. What a disgusting thing to wake up to. Traded him for a bunch of trash. I’m probably overreacting but whatever.

[WhiteSox2023]

2 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

And the Sox marketing team looked at this and are leaning into the meme

 

 

Did they really manage to spell “bobblehead” wrong?

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Awful trade. What a disgusting thing to wake up to. Traded him for a bunch of trash. I’m probably overreacting but whatever.

I regret to inform you it’s basically what he has been since 2023. 

[WhiteSox2023]

7 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Awful trade. What a disgusting thing to wake up to. Traded him for a bunch of trash. I’m probably overreacting but whatever.

What sucks is that the Mets have been offering the same bum for Robert for a year.  The Mets know he sucks, we know he sucks, but for all of Getz’s bluster about picking up Robert’s option and not trading him unless the return is worthwhile, he had to eat the s%*# pie and still take Acuna.  I can’t wait to hear Getz’s quotes today trying to polish this turd of an acquisition.

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[PaleAleSox]

Pauley looks like he has some filth at least. 

[hogan873]

I don't know why anyone would have expected more in a return for Robert.  He's been pretty bad and/or hurt for years.  However, if none of the $20 million is spent on improving the team, it'll be a major disappointment.  Yes, I know, be ready to be disappointed.

I'm fine with a clean slate of Robert gone.  It was tiring seeing him show the occasional glimpse of hope to either snap a hamstring or forget how to swing a bat.

As far as Acuna, let him play and see what he's got.  This is one of the few teams he would get a shot to play all year in a starting role.  We'll see,

[ChiSoxFanMike]

7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I regret to inform you it’s basically what he has been since 2023. 

I would have rather just kept him than trade him for Leury Garcia 2.0 and a random pitcher who will never amount to anything.