White Sox sign RHP Seranthony Domínguez, 2/20M

[WestEddy]

31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

https://southsideshowdown.com/former-white-sox-gm-rick-hahn-had-to-fire-himself-jerry-reinsdorf-news

Jerry is the worst owner in the MLB.  A monkey throwing a dart could make better decisions than him when it comes to running a successful winning team.

Arte Moreno had 2 HOFers on his team and couldn't win. He had players ODing on drugs supplied by personnel in the front office. JR is bad. He's not "the worst". 

[FriendlyNorthsider]

6 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The writers for the game should be embarrassed for praising any team that is spending less than 100 million dollars. 

They should be embarrassed that it took 2 weeks for anyone to realize the Sox signed Tyson Miller

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, greg775 said:

This guy is our closer. So he should be included as part of the Robert trade. Sox used the money to sign this guy. OK with the Acuna acquisition and adding two pitchers, Sox should be creeping close to .500 this season and mabe contend in this weak division. I wonder if they could land a starting pitcher even though starters only go five innings. ... The Sox have made some moves. The question is is our team a .500 club yet??

Not unless the offense gets a whole lot better to pick up a pretty weak starting staff.

[DoUEvenShift]

3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Win totals have not been released anywhere. Their projected WAR is bottom 3. 

Id say remind me in 1 month when win total o/u's are released, but youll just pretend it never happened. 

???

Fanduel: 64.5
Draftkings: 65.5
BetMGM:  65.5
Bovada: 65.5
BetRivers: 65.5
Caesars: 66.5
 

[WestEddy]

11 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

???

Fanduel: 64.5
Draftkings: 65.5
BetMGM:  65.5
Bovada: 65.5
BetRivers: 65.5
Caesars: 66.5
 

These lines have nothing (or little) to do with where anybody thinks the Sox will wind up, but it's a magical spot that will inspire equal betting on both sides of the line to cancel each other out. The house makes money off the vig. 

[ptatc]

3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

https://southsideshowdown.com/former-white-sox-gm-rick-hahn-had-to-fire-himself-jerry-reinsdorf-news

Jerry is the worst owner in the MLB.  A monkey throwing a dart could make better decisions than him when it comes to running a successful winning team.

Im shocked that this is your opinion. Go to Pittsburgh and Colorado and others they'll say the same thing about their owners. How about Oakland where the owner moved the team without having another home. You dont have the exclusive hate for the owner of your team.

Edited 12 hours ago by ptatc

[southsider2k5]

31 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

These lines have nothing (or little) to do with where anybody thinks the Sox will wind up, but it's a magical spot that will inspire equal betting on both sides of the line to cancel each other out. The house makes money off the vig. 

That makes the equilibrium at the point where the middle of all bets would be, so literally half of the people think the Sox will win that many games,  or more, and the other half less.  It's the literal crowdsourcing of where people think the Sox will be next year.

[WestEddy]

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That makes the equilibrium at the point where the middle of all bets would be, so literally half of the people think the Sox will win that many games,  or more, and the other half less.  It's the literal crowdsourcing of where people think the Sox will be next year.

Yeah, that's the wisdom of crowds. Betting lines are set, though, and then move based on betting. Last year's ridiculous line of 49.5 wins for the White Sox eventually moved. I wouldn't rely on a prostitute sizing me up on the North Ave. bridge to assess my own value as a man. 

[WhiteSox2023]

33 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Im shocked that this is your opinion. Go to Pittsburgh and Colorado and others they'll say the same thing about their owners. How about Oakland where the owner moved the team without having another home. You dont have the exclusive hate for the owner of your team.

You shouldn’t be shocked.  I could pull up posts in which you were still defending Rick Hahn until the bitter end, after numerous failures.  Now, Getz is your savior.  And here you are, still defending fucking Jerry Reinsdorf.  Quite frankly, your takes are biased and awful.  But good luck to you.

Imagine wasting keystrokes defending the worst owner in sports, yet here you are…

Hopefully, you are still on Jerry’s payroll.

Edited 12 hours ago by WhiteSox2023

[DoUEvenShift]

10 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, that's the wisdom of crowds. Betting lines are set, though, and then move based on betting. Last year's ridiculous line of 49.5 wins for the White Sox eventually moved. I wouldn't rely on a prostitute sizing me up on the North Ave. bridge to assess my own value as a man. 

I posted the sportsbook lines to actually prove your point against RayRay no one has them over 100 losses at the moment

[ptatc]

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

You shouldn’t be shocked.  I could pull up posts in which you were still defending Rick Hahn until the bitter end, after numerous failures.  Now, Getz is your savior.  You simply stroke whomever is in charge.  Quite frankly, your takes are biased and awful.  But good luck to you.

Oo. Nice attack. Get cornered and go for the person. What dies any of that have to do with many fans hating their owners

I didn't stick with Hahn to the end. I believe I said multiple times that he deserved to be fire because his plan didn't work. I said at the beginning he gets about 4-5 years and if it doesn't work he should be gone. But enjoy the vengeful research.

[WhiteSox2023]

2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Oo. Nice attack. Get cornered and go for the person. What dies any of that have to do with many fans hating their owners

I didn't stick with Hahn to the end. I believe I said multiple times that he deserved to be fire because his plan didn't work. I said at the beginning he gets about 4-5 years and if it doesn't work he should be gone. But enjoy the vengeful research.

You gave him enough rope to hang a thousand men. 

[southsider2k5]

34 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, that's the wisdom of crowds. Betting lines are set, though, and then move based on betting. Last year's ridiculous line of 49.5 wins for the White Sox eventually moved. I wouldn't rely on a prostitute sizing me up on the North Ave. bridge to assess my own value as a man. 

As you move the goalposts just note that it might not be where you think we will be, but that is pretty much the definition of where the masses think we will be, which was the original point.  The masses think we will be at 96 to 98 losses next year.

[greg775]

3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Not unless the offense gets a whole lot better to pick up a pretty weak starting staff.

I see the offense as good with Colson leading the way and the guy from Japan to go with our two catchers. Beni is acceptable and this guy we just got in the trade hit four home runs in one game recently. Also Meidroth.

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said:

I posted the sportsbook lines to actually prove your point against RayRay no one has them over 100 losses at the moment

And I take them both ways. Even the most cynical don't expect the White Sox to lose 100 this season, and they're betting lines, which have their own motivations. They probably skew extreme to draw in the early bettors. Thanks. 

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

You gave him enough rope to hang a thousand men. 

Who gives a s%*#? whining on a message board doesn't create any motivation to fire front office people, especially with JR. 

[WestEddy]

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

As you move the goalposts just note that it might not be where you think we will be, but that is pretty much the definition of where the masses think we will be, which was the original point.  The masses think we will be at 96 to 98 losses next year.

And the masses are stupid. I'm fairly certain we're both as unhappy with the "state of the nation" as it stands today. 

I can't count the number of people online who "thought" the Sox would rebreak the loss record in 2025. I sure hope they didn't bet that. Voting is free, though. 

[Chicago White Sox]

5 hours ago, Tony said:

You understand the analogy, you just don’t want to address the issue of giving credit to something that should be expected to have been done 15 years ago, and because Getz is simply keeping up with the rest of the competition, the White Sox deserve heaps of praise. 
 

But keep deflecting 

The White Sox deserve zero praise.  We were arguably the most embarrassing org in the major four sports over the last half decade.  And Chris Getz never deserved the GM job in the first place based on qualifications.  That being said, if you think for a second modernizing a professional sports org that is broken to its core is as easy as “saying no to drugs” then you have lost all touches to reality.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

15 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Be careful, you might have said something positive about Luis Robert to a dour-head bemoaning life, and now you'll be branded as a flip-flopper. 

My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek .Hopefully anyone who read it recognized that by the winking emoji.

[tray]

13 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

 I dont think theres enough gazillionaires out there to have 30 teams all throwing money around like it's confetti. There is only a few franchises that are appealing because they do that. The rest have to find a balance between profit and winning. Every owner has the right to run their franchise the way they see fit in accordance with the CBA.

Every franchise but a few operate with the constraints on spending that other businesses are faced with every day, i.e., you can't spend more than you make. Unfortunately, some owners have not operated under those constraints and have  created a monopoly after years of spending, advertising and promotion. Under that same model, Ishbia can choose to spend part of his personal fortune to award players with contracts worth hundreds of millions in an effort to join that  "gazillionaire" owners' club.  Yay. However, a better model involving some constraints on spending for every team would eventually  make MLB more competitive and interesting across the country. As it stands, fans of losing teams can simply hope some gazillionaire buys their favorite team and starts spending like a drunken sailor. It looks like things are becoming a lot worse with lack of parity and fewer competitive teams. But that is the way our country has been skewing for a long time - the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. 

Edited 6 hours ago by tray

[WBWSF]

5 hours ago, greg775 said:

I see the offense as good with Colson leading the way and the guy from Japan to go with our two catchers. Beni is acceptable and this guy we just got in the trade hit four home runs in one game recently. Also Meidroth.

I agree with you. The offense should be good. That being said, The White Sox Are Coming, Tra La, Tra La!!!!

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

10 hours ago, Tony said:

lol, yeah, because if there is one thing Jerry has shown, it’s his lack of patience and removing people who don’t get the job done 🤔

Tony how long are you thinking JR's lifespan is ?

My positivity is not solely based on the relatively simple but effective moves Getz has made to modernize the franchise and build a power structure in the front office to enhance communication and empower those he has hired to do what they do best.

It's also based on the inevitable march of time that JR has prepared for by bringing in the Ishbia's to become new owners and to be frank I have no idea if I will be alive the next time the Sox make the playoffs. 

Since watching my favorite teams play is my favorite form of entertainment I'd like think it can be done without affecting my objectivity but also without bumming me out too much since I also know there is only one true winner every year. Being a Bears, Bulls and Hawks fans has certainly helped in the last 40 years . I'm blessed to have seen 11 championships from my favorite teams and another one from the Cubs who do not fall into my favorites category .But it made a lot of Chicagoans happy so it balances things.

I truly think that if we all can be patient enough to wait for the new regime that it may usher in a new era of ownership that the Sox have never had before in their entire history. 

How that translates to Championships is a lot trickery. But if one is not truly happy unless you win championships we will be skeptical a lot more than hopeful. 

I post about my thought process as a forward looking fan and as a skeptic in the rest of the Reinsdorf regime. I just let that forward looking part of me be King because I think its a healthier outlook on life in general to enjoy fandom rather than let it negatively affect my nature. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

11 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Arte Moreno had 2 HOFers on his team and couldn't win. He had players ODing on drugs supplied by personnel in the front office. JR is bad. He's not "the worst". 

He did say when it comes to a successful winning team but that is the narrowest avenue to take but usually the only thing that matters to fans which is why you can't go to most fan forums without finding a lot of displeasure.

That brass ring is the only thing that matters to most fans.

JR has made investors, employees , White Sox  Charities enjoy their time with him . Inner city youths also benefit through the RBI program which also stresses life goals much like good parents would and offers scholarships. 

So while there's a lot to dislike about JR as a fan he's not evil incarnate.

Perspective beyond fandom keeps us more grounded. 

Edited 3 hours ago by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[Chicago White Sox]

So who do we think gets the boot from the 40 man roster as a result of this signing?  Here is the list of options from most likely to least likely IMO:

1. Bryan Ramos, IF
2. Bryan Hudson, LHP
3. Jairo Iriarte, RHP
4. Alexander Alberto, RHP

I don’t see anyone else really in the mix.  And candidly speaking, I think it will be one of those first three guys.  Gun to head though I would have to say Ramos.

[Timmy U]

31 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So who do we think gets the boot from the 40 man roster as a result of this signing?  Here is the list of options from most likely to least likely IMO:

1. Bryan Ramos, IF
2. Bryan Hudson, LHP
3. Jairo Iriarte, RHP
4. Alexander Alberto, RHP

I don’t see anyone else really in the mix.  And candidly speaking, I think it will be one of those first three guys.  Gun to head though I would have to say Ramos.

I think it could be Hill. That split contract is designed to get him through waivers. You could also DFA and trade Lee, release Eisert, Gilbert, Romo, Mead, and Peters. Lotta 40th men on this roster.