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Bryan Ramos Traded To Orioles

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15 minutes ago, Princess Dye said:

he actually plays the position though

True.

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  • Ducksnort
    Ducksnort

    So weird to see them like this. They were always like the Yankees of the Midwest without the money. The team to beat. Now it seems like they could be mired in mediocrity

  • Dick Allen
    Dick Allen

    JR likes cash considerations even more than David Eckstein.

  • I still think Ramos can have a career. Hope he stays healthy with the O's.

23 minutes ago, ptatc said:

True.

Getz keeps harping on getting the defense better. They think Acuña can slide out there and pick it up pretty easily, it seems. Baldwin needs work. 

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Getz keeps harping on getting the defense better. They think Acuña can slide out there and pick it up pretty easily, it seems. Baldwin needs work. 

Time will tell, but it seems like a lot of what we hear about Acuna's past experiments in the OF would indicate it might be a natural position for him. But the sharp eye of Statcast can be very unforgiving...

On 2/3/2026 at 10:06 AM, Jake said:

Time will tell, but it seems like a lot of what we hear about Acuna's past experiments in the OF would indicate it might be a natural position for him. But the sharp eye of Statcast can be very unforgiving...

Statcast has some flaws too. It still needs a decent sample size. We often just look at the numbers but forget about how big the sample is they are grading. 

I used to constantly tell people that despite Andrew Vaughn's adequate LF rating his 1st year in the OF that he was much too slow for that assessment to mean anything going forward.  He caught what he was supposed to catch and didnt botch fielding hits. But there is batted ball luck for fielders too and he didn't get a lot of difficult chances and once the sample size got bigger we'd get a more accurate read. And we did. 

No one with Baldwin's speed should get a 4 out of 100 in Range like we see on Baseball Savant. We saw him look bad on some routine stuff. Reading flyballs off the bat takes time. Doesnt seem like he's spent too much time in the OF in his life. 

If his bat develops like we saw in the 2nd half of the season and the reps improve his range his upside is high 700 or low 800 OPS. At that point it'll be his defense  that determines how high his WAR can get. I don't think his arm will rack up assists so he'll have to improve his defensive fundamentals. If everything works out he's our future Leftfielder  with Braden M. in RF. Venable has already said to keep an eye on Baldwin early in the season at Soxfest. 

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Statcast has some flaws too. It still needs a decent sample size. We often just look at the numbers but forget about how big the sample is they are grading. 

I used to constantly tell people that despite Andrew Vaughn's adequate LF rating his 1st year in the OF that he was much too slow for that assessment to mean anything going forward.  He caught what he was supposed to catch and didnt botch fielding hits. But there is batted ball luck for fielders too and he didn't get a lot of difficult chances and once the sample size got bigger we'd get a more accurate read. And we did. 

No one with Baldwin's speed should get a 4 out of 100 in Range like we see on Baseball Savant. We saw him look bad on some routine stuff. Reading flyballs off the bat takes time. Doesnt seem like he's spent too much time in the OF in his life. 

If his bat develops like we saw in the 2nd half of the season and the reps improve his range his upside is high 700 or low 800 OPS. At that point it'll be his defense  that determines how high his WAR can get. I don't think his arm will rack up assists so he'll have to improve his defensive fundamentals. If everything works out he's our future Leftfielder  with Braden M. in RF. Venable has already said to keep an eye on Baldwin early in the season at Soxfest. 

Looking up Robert, he had 2.78 Chances a game (Put-outs + Assists + errors), which doesn't give us a raw look at his fielding stats. I don't know if there's a site that gives total number of balls hit into his area as flyballs, ground balls and line drives, how many he fielded as outs, how many as base hits and how many as errors. Is there even a stat for how many times he threw the ball back in on outs, hits or errors and recorded an out, hold (I just made that up), error, or general advanced runner? 

I'm sorry, this is starting to feel like a meandery post.

TL;DR - Robert registered a "Chance" 2.78 times per game. That doesn't tell us how many times he touched the ball compared to times he was responsible for touching the ball. I know there are zone ratings, but I don't know where to find the raw data. 

I hope Romo clears but doubtful.

2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Imagine paying cash considerations for Ramos only to walk right over to the roulette wheel with him. 

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Imagine paying cash considerations for Ramos only to walk right over to the roulette wheel with him. 

Highway robbery!

15 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Imagine paying cash considerations for Ramos only to walk right over to the roulette wheel with him. 

Hilarious.  Not much in the grand scheme of baseball but still $55 to $100K.

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4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Hilarious.  Not much in the grand scheme if baseball but still $55 to $100K.

He must have been the DFA for Blaze Alexander. I wonder how Orioles Hideout, or whatever they're called is reacting to that. 

51 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Imagine paying cash considerations for Ramos only to walk right over to the roulette wheel with him. 

I said when they first claimed him this would be their plan, but figured the Orioles would wait more than a couple of days to try and sneak him through.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I said when they first claimed him this would be their plan, but figured the Orioles would wait more than a couple of days to try and sneak him through.

They traded for another RHH infielder since that claim

50 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Hilarious.  Not much in the grand scheme of baseball but still $55 to $100K.

Getz fulfilled job #1. 

3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

They traded for another RHH infielder since that claim

Didn’t catch that…makes much more sense now.

18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I said when they first claimed him this would be their plan, but figured the Orioles would wait more than a couple of days to try and sneak him through.

Also the 60 man DL opens next week so expect a flurry of teams trying to get players through now before more 40 man spots open up.  I wondered if WS would claim Victor Mesa Jr since he has 1 option remaining and we could have DFA'ed Hill or someone out of options.

2 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:

Also the 60 man DL opens next week so expect a flurry of teams trying to get players through now before more 40 man spots open up.  I wondered if WS would claim Victor Mesa Jr since he has 1 option remaining and we could have DFA'ed Hill or someone out of options.

The Rays just grabbed him, so no.

lol

Like Ramos on the Cards though. He actually has a path to playing time there. 

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Everybody wants Bryan Ramos. Nobody wants Bryan Ramos. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Everybody wants Bryan Ramos. Nobody wants Bryan Ramos. 

 

 

I was randomly listened to a Cards podcast last night. They are in a bad way. They might have a worse roster than the Sox and they don't have much on the farm either. 

12 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I was randomly listened to a Cards podcast last night. They are in a bad way. They might have a worse roster than the Sox and they don't have much on the farm either. 

So weird to see them like this. They were always like the Yankees of the Midwest without the money. The team to beat. Now it seems like they could be mired in mediocrity

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I was randomly listened to a Cards podcast last night. They are in a bad way. They might have a worse roster than the Sox and they don't have much on the farm either. 

Ramos seems like the kind of guy they should be keeping. Maybe they should court a few pitching injuries so they can open up the 40-man via the 60-day IL. 

Oh well, Last In, First Out, I guess. 

1 hour ago, Ducksnort said:

So weird to see them like this. They were always like the Yankees of the Midwest without the money. The team to beat. Now it seems like they could be mired in mediocrity

A know some die hard Cardinal fans and they say the issue is ownership which is turning into JR when it comes to spending even though St. Louis has always been a tremendous draw until the last few years. 

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