1 hour ago, Quin said:

Oof.

Yeah, this goes back to the good faith.  This really bad.  There is "legal" and this is pissing down the legs of your peers.

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yeah, this goes back to the good faith.  This really bad.  There is "legal" and this is pissing down the legs of your peers.

Yep. It would be interesting to see what kind of damage control is going on behind the scenes. Regardless of the reason, not a good look to the rest of the league.

2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Yep. It would be interesting to see what kind of damage control is going on behind the scenes. Regardless of the reason, not a good look to the rest of the league.

I kind of would have expected some kind of offensive from Ravens - you haven't gotten much. When there are reports out there of them meeting with Tray at same time Max was in the building - just not a good look.  

5 hours ago, Tony said:

This is a simplistic way of looking at it. 

They did not break any rule, you are correct. Ethically, we're having a different conversation. 

And decisions have consequences. Teams will be more hesitant to trade with the Ravens. Players may be more hesitant to agree to terms with the Ravens. 

It also has created much more of a mess for teams than people realize. We know by reporting that multiple teams were in on Crosby. He was one of the first dominos to fall, trade was agreed to and the multiple teams that were involved in the talks pivoted to signing and agreeing to terms with other players to fill their roster. With the salary Crosby has, there has to be some planning involved in getting his contract to work with the rest of the roster. 

For a trade of this magnitude, and with the current injury state Crosby is in, medicals should have been reviewed before a deal was formally announced. 

Yep, totally fair assessment. Admittedly I was initially only looking at it through the lens of “teams will always exploit loopholes for a competitive advantage.”

 

39 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

 

Is there anyone who has looked sadder to be a Cleveland Brown?

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yeah, this goes back to the good faith.  This really bad.  There is "legal" and this is pissing down the legs of your peers.

I'm wondering if this leads to changes to the tampering period down the line.

 

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

 

Pending a physical. The drama!

7 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

 

Wishing him the best of luck with another new team.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/vikings-wont-begin-g-m-search-until-after-the-draft#

Vikings won’t have a new GM until after the draft

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/vikings-wont-begin-g-m-search-until-after-the-draft#

Vikings won’t have a new GM until after the draft

I actually think that makes more sense on the calendar than the “draft with the previous scouts” thing, and probably easier to hire your next group.

But obviously most are tied to the coaching search. But the timeframe orgs select GMs is pretty silly

Man this would have been a great draft with the two extra comp picks. Really sucks the NFL screwed the Bears over some BS definition of control.

47 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Man this would have been a great draft with the two extra comp picks. Really sucks the NFL screwed the Bears over some BS definition of control.

That whole situation is insane. I have yet to hear a rational reason why the NFL dug in so hard on not giving them the picks. It wasn't punitive to Atlanta, there is truly no "victim" by awarding the picks to the Bears. The NFL simply fucked the Bears, there is really no other way to view it, it's so cut and dry.

25 minutes ago, Tony said:

That whole situation is insane. I have yet to hear a rational reason why the NFL dug in so hard on not giving them the picks. It wasn't punitive to Atlanta, there is truly no "victim" by awarding the picks to the Bears. The NFL simply fucked the Bears, there is really no other way to view it, it's so cut and dry.

That's what so weird about it. Everything happened exactly the way that the NFL wanted it to happen, and then poof. It's like they pissed someone off. Either that or they are scared of being seen as DEI by you know who.

That is an amazing deal for the Giants.

Brad Biggs on the score this morning said he got a call from a guy he knows and he was told the bears are working on a small move upwards, Biggs guessed between 20-23. Have to think they are ready to pounce if another team makes a specific move that sets it off

14 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Brad Biggs on the score this morning said he got a call from a guy he knows and he was told the bears are working on a small move upwards, Biggs guessed between 20-23. Have to think they are ready to pounce if another team makes a specific move that sets it off

It must be someone they like being available at those points, but won't get past a team behind that point, but in front of the Bears. The team immediately in front of the Bears is at #24, and that is one slot NOT mentioned.

Well we know Bears aren't trading the 57th pick at least.

My dream Bears draft:

1st Utah LT

2nd IU DB or Tennessee DB

2nd Kyle Louis (safety) or Trevon Sykes

2nd Chis Bell (Wideout - ACL Injury);

Dline or Center 3rd

Dline or Center with our next pick

Any predictions?

I have no idea what to expect down this far. I would be on a trade up or down, either to get their guy, or to gather more picks.

1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

My dream Bears draft:

1st Utah LT

2nd IU DB or Tennessee DB

2nd Kyle Louis (safety) or Trevon Sykes

2nd Chis Bell (Wideout - ACL Injury);

Dline or Center 3rd

Dline or Center with our next pick

5 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

My dream Bears draft:

1st Utah LT

2nd IU DB or Tennessee DB

2nd Kyle Louis (safety) or Trevon Sykes

2nd Chis Bell (Wideout - ACL Injury);

Dline or Center 3rd

Dline or Center with our next pick

No DL till the 3rd or possibly the 4th seems a little wild. I'd honestly rather double or even triple dip on DL with their first 4.

4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Any predictions?

I have no idea what to expect down this far. I would be on a trade up or down, either to get their guy, or to gather more picks.

I would try and trade down. I feel like the difference in talent between 25(depending on if someone drops) is not that much different than say 35. Though falling to the end of the 1st would be more ideal to pick up the extra year of control.

4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

He projects as a good pass blocker, but not a good run blocker. He's very athletic, so you'd think the run blocking will come eventually. In a Ben Johnson scheme, he's gonna need to improve that area of his game very quickly.