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Update: Vasil Needs Tommy John

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Houston fans gave their team the lowest TV rankings in major market history...former dorm mate Brett Dolan lost his play by play job and has struggled to get back to that level ever since.

That said, they had Top 3-5 farm systems for three years running.

Like the Royals,…like the Cubs, the majority of their high draft picks became significant and consistent 3-5+ fWAR contributors.

Padres and Blue Jays systems were all right there near top...and then the Orioles.

SD ended up with 4 playoff appearances and 4 playoff series wins, Toronto won the WS last year after a record setting extension to Vladdy.

Orioles just doubled down by signing Alonso and trading for Burnes, but look how difficult that AL East is...probably the most analagous to White Sox, as JR was never going to run out a $300-350 million budget like SD and certainly not where TOR is now...$180-220 million was pretty much the peak.

 

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  • I can't wait until they start the next rebuild, so I can seethe and call for all the replacements to be fired, and for an even new rebuild to commense. 

  • Every god damn thread turns into the same thing. 

  • Nothing is Getz' fault. Why would somebody be so crazy to put any blame on the player development guy when top prospects fail to live up to their billing?

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1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

Why don't you ever give JR his due. He's the only owner who ever would have made Chris Getz GM, so according to all of your posts, he got it right. 

Full credit here, there is no man more responsible for the downfall of the White Sox than Jerry Reinsdorf. 

He's the one who forced Kenny to choose between a competitive roster or the future. 

He's the one who pushed back as Rick tried to expand analytics.

He's the one who forced TLR instead of a real current and successful manager. 

He's the one who let Kenny float in space after refusing to let him leave for a huge promotion. 

He's the one who refused Machado and/or Harper. 

He's the one who preferred a marionette to a GM search.  

He's the one not able to read the room on a new stadium.

He's the one making seem like a huge accomplishment to add a 40 million dollar contract this winter.

He's the reason even if Chris Getz is a boy genius as claimed, Jerry will find another way to cock block and destroy, just like all of the other GMs and AGms he has fucked in 40 years.

He's the reason for Hawk Harrelson as a GM.

He's the reason for Dan Evans, Schumer, Himes, and Hemond.

I could keep going, but everyone knows who the problem is.

13 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I'm to the point where I think we all have to admit it was a baller move for Getz to position himself to get promoted to remake the entire org. 

He had know he'd be a lame duck GM with the bare minimum for the players but also knew he have plenty to spend on infrastucture since those things are a pittance yearly compared to even one contract like Benitendi's annual salary.

They cant just cut him and eat the salary. Even if they can save $5M on his salary they'll keep him and play him to extract that savings. Thats just the way it is now. 

8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He had know he'd be a lame duck GM with the bare minimum for the players but also knew he have plenty to spend on infrastucture since those things are a pittance yearly compared to even one contract like Benitendi's annual salary.

They cant just cut him and eat the salary. Even if they can save $5M on his salary they'll keep him and play him to extract that savings. Thats just the way it is now. 

But the value to see Acuna Baldwin Pereira Kelenic (Sosa maybe) and eventually Braden to play everyday is worth more than $5 million to the future Sox franchise's hopes to compete for the post season in 2028/29/30...

35 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

But the value to see Acuna Baldwin Pereira Kelenic (Sosa maybe) and eventually Braden to play everyday is worth more than $5 million to the future Sox franchise's hopes to compete for the post season in 2028/29/30...

Exactly.  He is still going to punish the future of the organization for a few dollars more.  Maybe we shuffled around titles and people in the organization, but the biggest impediment is still here.

17 hours ago, Jake said:

Saw a tweeter claiming they saw Vasil long-tossing in Arizona today

I’m guessing that report was bad. Yikes.

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m guessing that report was bad. Yikes.

yeah, considering the dude is going for TJS hopefully the report was false or a lie, otherwise that is really bad.

Its too bad, but the bright side is, if this was inevitable, having it done now is probably best. Non contention in 2026 and probably some sort of stoppage next season for at least a little while isn't bad. Hopefully he returns better than ever.

Man that really sucks.

4 hours ago, Capn12 said:

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Well s%*#.

Can't say I'm surprised. The way pitchers are today anytime they say they have an elbow, forearm or shoulder issue it is best to assume the worst.

4 hours ago, Capn12 said:

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Well s%*#.

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