4 hours ago4 hr Clearly the Sox are not making Taylor a closer. I question why they've accelerated his clock the way they have without a defined role in mind for him. The bullpen usage the last two days indicates that winning is not their priority this season. They clearly are prizing development over results, which... when you're getting the 10th pick anyway and you're trying to avoid an unprecedented 4th straight 100 loss season... I dunno. I'm kind of tired of the mentality.
4 hours ago4 hr 5 minutes ago, Timmy U said:Clearly the Sox are not making Taylor a closer. I question why they've accelerated his clock the way they have without a defined role in mind for him. The bullpen usage the last two days indicates that winning is not their priority this season. They clearly are prizing development over results, which... when you're getting the 10th pick anyway and you're trying to avoid an unprecedented 4th straight 100 loss season... I dunno. I'm kind of tired of the mentality.Maybe we overrate him
4 hours ago4 hr 6 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:Maybe we overrate him95% of pitchers not meant to be closers.
4 hours ago4 hr Congratulations to Schultz on his first win.He looked a lot more comfortable out there than in his first start.
4 hours ago4 hr 18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:Pythagorean would argue otherwise.We do this to ourselves every season...easily could be.But NOT.Not with the atrocious bullpen's the past several years. Hard to win with guys blowing winnable games left and right.
4 hours ago4 hr If the Sox manage just one more win before the month is over, it will be their highest win total entering May since 2021.March-April records:2021: 14-112022: 8-122023: 8-21 2024: 6-242025: 7-23Though to be fair to the 2022 team given the late start to the season, they were at 15-14 by May 10th.
4 hours ago4 hr 3 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:If the Sox manage just one more win before the month is over, it will be their highest win total entering May since 2021.March-April records:2021: 14-112022: 8-122023: 8-212024: 6-242025: 7-23Though to be fair to the 2022 team given the late start to the season, they were at 15-14 by May 10th.Sad that still being bad could be an improvement.
3 hours ago3 hr 23 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:If the Sox manage just one more win before the month is over, it will be their highest win total entering May since 2021.March-April records:2021: 14-112022: 8-122023: 8-212024: 6-242025: 7-23Though to be fair to the 2022 team given the late start to the season, they were at 15-14 by May 10th.Baby steps, just keep getting better. More wins in Sacramento and KC are a welcome sight. Schultz up and dealing . Sox "ll get Hays, Teel and Shane Smith back and start winning at a better clip. Murakami power stroke coming alive and getting national attention. Colson swatting big flys too.It's all about perspective.
3 hours ago3 hr 4 hours ago, JoshPR said:I really would like for the Vargas era to end. Weakest swing possible. Always late on cookies. I wish Will would just make a lineup and stick with it. You can't develop any consistency like this. Everyday it's some fucking mumbo jumbo. Just a hot messThat is your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
3 hours ago3 hr 39 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:95% of pitchers not meant to be closers.Thank goodness they free up the money in the Robert trade to go out and get a closer!Just yanking’ your chain, Caulfield. Dominguez has been less than stellar. But really, 4 for 6 in save opportunities is far from terrible. If they had had him last year, they wouldn’t have lost, even, 95 games. Plus I was about to admit that Taylor IS their best reliever, but really he’s kinda mediocre, just like the others, including Dominguez.
3 hours ago3 hr 52 minutes ago, Timmy U said:Clearly the Sox are not making Taylor a closer. I question why they've accelerated his clock the way they have without a defined role in mind for him. The bullpen usage the last two days indicates that winning is not their priority this season. They clearly are prizing development over results, which... when you're getting the 10th pick anyway and you're trying to avoid an unprecedented 4th straight 100 loss season... I dunno. I'm kind of tired of the mentality. A couple of weeks ago, he was a 1-innng opener (consecutive nights; 3/4 nights). But I don't think they are going for starter either (injury concerns, as I recall). He throws 100 but he gets hit; I guess the command isn't there.Unfortunate.
3 hours ago3 hr 51 minutes ago, Timmy U said:Clearly the Sox are not making Taylor a closer. I question why they've accelerated his clock the way they have without a defined role in mind for him. The bullpen usage the last two days indicates that winning is not their priority this season. They clearly are prizing development over results, which... when you're getting the 10th pick anyway and you're trying to avoid an unprecedented 4th straight 100 loss season... I dunno. I'm kind of tired of the mentality.Getting something for Dominquez while he gets some saves seems to be a priority. That's both thinking wins and future. Getting any young pitcher to pitch well in crucial situations prioritizes winning and development also. No need for him to close. He's pitching great just how they they're using him. No need to force anything. Its about building his innings and if that's pitching a couple of good innings in the 6th and 7th then that's good enough to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
3 hours ago3 hr 2 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:Thank goodness they free up the money in the Robert trade to go out and get a closer!Just yanking’ your chain, Caulfield. Dominguez has been less than stellar. But really, 4 for 6 in save opportunities is far from terrible. If they had had him last year, they wouldn’t have lost, even, 95 games.Plus I was about to admit that Taylor IS their best reliever, but really he’s kinda mediocre, just like the others, including Dominguez.A closer with a 66% save rate would be terrible.
3 hours ago3 hr 47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:95% of pitchers not meant to be closers.The hope is that the ones who throw 100 can be closers, if not aces.
3 hours ago3 hr 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:Baby steps, just keep getting better. More wins in Sacramento and KC are a welcome sight. Schultz up and dealing . Sox "ll get Hays, Teel and Shane Smith back and start winning at a better clip. Murakami power stroke coming alive and getting national attention. Colson swatting big flys too.It's all about perspective.I agree with this 100%. Teel and Hays (if he can stay healthy and not be this year’s Tauchman) will help a ton, a ton. Not confident we can get last year’s Shane Smith back, but the other Smith, Hagen, will be up in a month or two. I still really think chasing a wild card spot is possible, if and only if, our bullpen gets its act together.
3 hours ago3 hr 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:Pythagorean would argue otherwise.We do this to ourselves every season...easily could be.But NOT.Man you a good dude bro, but you can be a buzzkillington...🤣
3 hours ago3 hr 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:His stats coming into this year indicated a pretty solid pitcher if a bit wild but yea this is something else.He may have a small blister that is affecting certain pitchs.
3 hours ago3 hr 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:At least we get to enjoy 2-3 years before inevitable trade talk.You think they'd want to bank on a local kid making good...Always looking ahead to a definitive future when the reality is things can change in a literal heartbeat.
3 hours ago3 hr 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:Getting something for Dominquez while he gets some saves seems to be a priority. That's both thinking wins and future. Getting any young pitcher to pitch well in crucial situations prioritizes winning and development also. No need for him to close. He's pitching great just how they they're using him. No need to force anything. Its about building his innings and if that's pitching a couple of good innings in the 6th and 7th then that's good enough to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.Taylor not great today.Getting something for Dominguez is one thing, Newcomb and especially Hicks quite another.And Murakami might have already hit his peak value...we shall see the demand level two months from now as mlbtraderumors heats up again.
3 hours ago3 hr 9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:A closer with a 66% save rate would be terrible.Right off google: AI OverviewAs of 2025, the league-wide average save percentage for MLB relievers is approximately 63%.As usual, you’re completely full of BS!
3 hours ago3 hr 2 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:Right off google:AI OverviewAs of 2025, the league-wide average save percentage for MLB relievers is approximately 63%.As usual, you’re completely full of BS!I have no idea how accurate this is but I do know that when I've asked a baseball question from AI just to confirm some things that I knew to be true or accurate the answer I got was way off base.My point is that I don't think you can trust AI to a reasonable degree yet about anything.
3 hours ago3 hr 1 minute ago, vilehoopster said:Right off google:AI OverviewAs of 2025, the league-wide average save percentage for MLB relievers is approximately 63%.As usual, you’re completely full of BS!That's the average of every single guy in save situations including 7th and 8th inning pitchers.Elite used to mean 92.5-100%Very good 85-92.5%Tolerable 77.5-85%But closers should always be higher than mere High leverage guys.
3 hours ago3 hr Sun Times with the post game wrap:https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/04/19/noah-schultz-munetaka-murakami-white-sox-athletics
3 hours ago3 hr 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:Taylor not great today.Getting something for Dominguez is one thing, Newcomb and especially Hicks quite another.And Murakami might have already hit his peak value...we shall see the demand level two months from now as mlbtraderumors heats up again.Lots of pitchers in baseball not great every day, some are only very good or good. Peak value happens after sustained success. This is not a sprint. This is baseball .Do try to keep that in mind in your haste to do whatever you're trying to do.
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.