39 minutes ago, wegner said:

Murakami and Teel coming back are just like trading for 2 great pieces 😁

Thanks KW Hahn Getz JR!!!

We're not worthy!

Perhaps I'm being too pessimistic. I wouldn't overreact to this start. Hold the course, live through the upcoming negotiations, and enjoy the ride.

I didn't see any viable trade that makes this a world series winning team. Any impact player would likely create a different hole.

9 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Perhaps I'm being too pessimistic. I wouldn't overreact to this start. Hold the course, live through the upcoming negotiations, and enjoy the ride.

I didn't see any viable trade that makes this a world series winning team. Any impact player would likely create a different hole.

Only thing that would vault us up would be like trading for a superstar corner OF and another decent SP. Say good bye to Bonemer and his projected 15 WAR for league min in that case. Not worth it at all imo.

Castellanos was DFA by SD. I was thinking maybe worth a kick of the tires but he's washed.

On 6/2/2026 at 12:27 PM, chitownsportsfan said:

Peters, god bless him, is fool's gold. He has a .364 BABIP and a .293 xwOBA. Great story, fun first 1/3, but over under on WAR rest of the way is 1.

Peters has been getting it done in CF so far.

1 minute ago, Falstaff said:

Peters has been getting it done in CF so far.

Lotta players getting it done so far. Fun season. Forgot what it felt like to have actual stars and then some pixie dust.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Lotta players getting it done so far. Fun season. Forgot what it felt like to have actual stars and then some pixie dust.

Early shades of Cliffe Politte & Neal Cotts in 2005

Reid Detmers being floated by Passan as a possible get for the Sox

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/48958846/mlb-2026-early-trade-deadline-preview-jeff-passan-30-teams-skubal-tigers-dodgers-yankees-brewers-braves

I'd think a 4th starter under team control for 3 years would cost quite a bit of system depth. Probably not asking for top 3 org guys, but 4-10 pick three type deal.

Edited Thursday at 11:02 PM4 days by chitownsportsfan

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I'd think a 4th starter under team control for 3 years would cost quite a bit of system depth. Probably not asking for top 3 org guys, but 4-10 pick three type deal.

Billy Carlson, Ky Bush and two mopes. Git R Done.

Chris Getz does not know what a day off is.

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Billy Carlson, Ky Bush and two mopes. Git R Done.

That's the sort of package I was thinking. I'd probably do it. Three years left of relative cheapness so even if he regresses you can shove him in the 5th spot.

Take it with grain of salt

1 hour ago, Whisox05 said:

Take it with grain of salt

Sanzatela the definition of a failed starter but can give you 2-3....and might not hurt to get him out of Colorado to boost his confidence.

3 hours ago, Whisox05 said:

It also depends A LOT on what JR allows him to do regardless of where they are in the standings.

3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

It also depends A LOT on what JR allows him to do regardless of where they are in the standings.

Getz has hinted at expecting a relatively green light if the situation warrants it FWIW

On 6/2/2026 at 6:38 AM, poppysox said:

Jerry is not going to push "all in" at this stage of the game. If we make a big move, it will be because Ishiba has more input than we have been led to believe.

This may be the last time he gets to the see the Sox in the playoffs. I don't know what all in means but I do think he will give them the resources to go for it.

Alcantara and Detmars are at the top of my list.

3 hours ago, Whisox05 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/5-players-creating-early-mlb-trade-buzz-luis-arraez-cj-abrams-willson-contreras-and-more-210530565.html

Alcantara has the big contract dollars to absorb so just depends on both teams' financial situations...and especially Marlins' desperation to move him.

Skubal and Ryan are for the big market/Top Ten milb systems to fight over.

W.Contreras or Arraez (1B/DH) make some sense, but only depending on what you think of Mune/Teel return dates and viability of Gonzalez/Pereira/Braden as contributors in the next couple of months.

Arraez would be buying really high now...compared to last season in SD.

Somewhere around $120-125 million as a floor seems at least plausible.

The more likely it seems as October approaches, the more movement you'll see taking on a contract like an Alcantara or Luis Castillo becomes pragmatic for the bottom 12-15 payroll teams...since the upcoming FA market is filled with potential overpays and only Skubal and maybe Sato at the top of the class and maybe another 8-10 Tier1A to B guys.

Edited yesterday at 02:17 AM1 day by caulfield12

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/5-players-creating-early-mlb-trade-buzz-luis-arraez-cj-abrams-willson-contreras-and-more-210530565.html

Alcantara has the big contract dollars to absorb so just depends on both teams' financial situations...and especially Marlins' desperation to move him.

Skubal and Ryan are for the big market/Top Ten milb systems to fight over.

W.Contreras or Arraez (1B/DH) make some sense, but only depending on what you think of Mune/Teel return dates and viability of Gonzalez/Pereira/Braden as contributors in the next couple of months.

Arraez would be buying really high now...compared to last season in SD.

Alcantra, a darling of the WAR factory, is a 3. But he's hyped as a 1/2 and is likely priced as such.
Renting Skubal would be ridiculous.
Sox shouldn't need JR's approval on much because they shouldn't trade for bloated contracts anyway.

Contreras and Arraez? What? That's trading for the sake of trading. Sox don't have an opening at first or 2nd. Gonzalez+ for Conteras....a Rick Hahn special.

The Sox could actually use a starter. Perhaps Detmers if the price isn't July-juiced.

At this point, I think it’s fair to conclude this is a legit playoff positional group when healthy. If Braden comes up at some point, I’m not sure there are a lot of places to upgrade the lineup. Baring any surprises on the injury front, I think you can hold steady with this group of position players.

The pitching staff is what needs to be upgraded and I’m candidly a bit torn on this. Right now, we are two SPs and three RPs short IMO. Schultz should be back at some point and will address one of those two SP spots. He may not be great this year, but we must commit to developing him and treat him like a back of the rotation starter in the interim. That will eventually knock one of Sandlin or Fedde out of the rotation, but who is the other guy is the big predicament.

The short term answer may need to be Hagen Smith. It may be risky, but I think now is the time to see what you have in him. Over his last three starts, he has averaged 4.1 innings with 25 K’s (17 per 9), 6 BB’s (4 per 9), 9 hits, & 3 ERs (2.07 ERA). Yes, the control isn’t perfect and he hasn’t been all that efficient from a pitch count perspective, but he’s striking out guys like crazy and not giving a lot of hits/runs. He’s also on Sandlin’s schedule and can immediately swap spots. I think giving him a trial run with Bove right now makes a ton of sense given the teams we face over the coming weeks. Again, it’s risky, but there isn’t really a great alternative at the moment.

To me, a Martin, Burke, Kay, Smith, & Schultz/Fedde rotation is about the best you can do for the month of June. The pitching injuries we have faced have been devastating and I don’t see many other potential SP reinforcements until July at the earliest. Maybe with more AAA seasoning Sandlin becomes an option again? McDougal & Smith could be back in AAA by then, but hard to say how soon either can be a major league option given non-health issues. Mason Adams is a bit of a wild card as he’s ramping up in High A, but his update is fairly limited. Not sure we can factor in Thorpe or Bush into even the 2H mix given their set-backs. There is a non-zero chance someone internally steps up and can knock the weakest link out of the rotation, but it is certainly a big risk.

As such, one outside SP addition seems needed if we’re being honest with ourselves. The big challenge here is not spending too much prospect currency at the deadline on SP help that can be added in the offseason for just cash. I agree with Getz that we shouldn’t lose sight of the mission of sustainable success, but also impossible to ignore this positional group. We definitely should not go trade Bonemer for Skubal, but I also don’t like the idea giving up several top 10 prospects for a controllable SP. We got to find the right balance that doesn’t deplete the farm system, but provides enough impact to make the upgrade over internal options worth it. It’s a delicate balance that Getz must manage carefully if he wants to play both short-term & long-term games at the same time.

Last but not least is the bullpen, but the bullpen will definitely need to be augmented if we’re serious about winning. Taylor, Dominguez, Newcomb, Hudson, & Davis is a good starting point, but we could afford three upgrades over the current unit. I think we can reasonably expect one to come internally, but I think two outside additions will eventually be needed. I don’t think we need high cost options there though, just solid middle relievers who should come at a more reasonable price.

Look at the top 5 to 10 top prospects on this team and then ask yourself which ones, and how many of them you are willing to give up. That's going to give you the answer if you are buying or selling.

-If you aren't willing to give up guys in the top 5, you aren't getting a top bat or pitching.

-If you aren't willing to give up guys in the top 10, you aren't getting a starting position player, midrotation starter, or top reliever.

I could see dealing Carlson for pitching. He’s currently out with a broken thumb though, so no idea of his value. Not giving up Braden, Bonemer, McDougal or Hagen, so… I guess I am not geeked to go all in.