First place at the break and Noah showing he can turn the corner by going 5 and giving us no walks!

Very nice series and good job Noah,.Braden, Psycho Sam and Hicks.

First place at the break and nice sweep.

After the recent play, is the smart move to buy instead of sell?

4 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

After the recent play, is the smart move to buy instead of sell?

Dorks who wanted to sell at the deadline are ridiculous.

Great series. Vibes are good going into the break.

Nice win and series as the Sox went 24-2 against the A’s in runs scored. They have a little streak and it bothers me that we now have the break, hopefully they can go .500 at Toronto and Texas then come home and build on the 5 games over .500.

17 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Dorks who wanted to sell at the deadline are ridiculous.

You can make a case that the one trade we've made this month is a "sell" trade.

That's the way to reestablish some momentum.

Outside of the errors a well played series.

Only downer they couldn't gain any distance on Cleveland and Minnesota won I think their 11th series in a row. That's absolutely mind blowing. At least Detroit lost twice this weekend.

At the break, your Chicago White Sox have spent more time at or above .500 than under it this season.

On May 13th, they reached .500 for the first time after 42 games. They have not been below since (they were exactly .500 again twice at 26-26 and 27-27, but never under).

They bottomed out at 7 under (6-13) on April 16th. Since April 17th, they are 44-32 (~94 win pace), 5th in MLB and 2nd in the AL. Only the Brewers, Dodgers, Rays, and Phillies have been better.

Coincidentally, that stretch started with a series win vs. the A’s on the road and runs through this sweep vs. them at home (and both times the Sox had been swept by an AL East team at home in the previous series).

Some benchmarks for the second half:

• 11-56 to exceed last season's win total

• 20-47 for 70 wins

• 31-36 for a .500 season

• 37-30 for 87 wins, the cutoff for the playoffs in last year's (stronger) AL

4 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

At the break, your Chicago White Sox have spent more time at or above .500 than under it this season.

On May 13th, they reached .500 for the first time after 42 games. They have not been below since (they were exactly .500 again twice at 26-26 and 27-27, but never under).

They bottomed out at 7 under (6-13) on April 16th. Since April 17th, they are 44-32 (~94 win pace), 5th in MLB and 2nd in the AL. Only the Brewers, Dodgers, Rays, and Phillies have been better.

Coincidentally, that stretch started with a series win vs. the A’s on the road and runs through this sweep vs. them at home (and both times the Sox had been swept by an AL East team at home in the previous series).

Some benchmarks for the second half:

• 11-56 to exceed last season's win total

• 20-47 for 70 wins

• 31-36 for a .500 season

• 37-30 for 87 wins, the cutoff for the playoffs in last year's (stronger) AL

32 wins for an actual winning season. That would be remarkable.

51 minutes ago, JoeC said:

You can make a case that the one trade we've made this month is a "sell" trade.

Nah its a smart trade. Sox last had the #1 pick in 1977 and now MLB wants to take HS players out of the draft. This could've been the Sox last opportunity in a long time to enhance the team of the near future and secure a more distant future . Not very many teams are committed to selling yet . Not sure there will be that many bargains out there. Also the Sox are not getting any immediate help from the international signing period at all . That is still a work in progress.

It's not like JR still isn't the owner. Getz likes to say we aren't rebuilding we are building. I think that is as true as it ever was. People think Gonzalez was a bigger chip than he is. Could be true but a decision had to be made on using him to get more draft capital and players for the present and future or waiting around to see who will outbid you on the premium talent that does end up available.

Gonzalez was going back to the minors and had no chance of increasing his value any more by playing in Charlotte. As much as I liked his contributions while Mune was gone I doubt many GM's thought of him as a premium piece . It's just as lot of wishful thinking hoping our team can make a big playoff run. But securing the foundation for the Ishbia years and a future new stadium is still top priority.

This year can stand on it's own as a year to be proud of without selling out the future for temporary help.

They had to sweep to salvage what was a dissapointing homestand

3 hours ago, JoeC said:

You can make a case that the one trade we've made this month is a "sell" trade.

Sometimes being a buyer turns out to being a seller.

It wouldn't bother me if they do nothing. Nothing wrong with it being a development year. We didn't think this would happen.

4 hours ago, Green Line said:

They had to sweep to salvage what was a dissapointing homestand

Yeah, I said after the Red Sox sweep if we could return the favor to the A's it would make up for it. I just wish the Marlins won at least one game at home against Cleveland. Their pitching is really good so I am worried about competing against them down the stretch especially when they get Ramirez back. We got a tough 2nd half schedule, not a lot of gimmie series out there

7 hours ago, hi8is said:

Dorks who wanted to sell at the deadline are ridiculous.

Trade? Yes.   Always be open and alert for opportunities
Buy?  Never

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

Trade? Yes.   Always be open and alert for opportunities
Buy?  Never

English as a second language?

17 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Nah its a smart trade. Sox last had the #1 pick in 1977 and now MLB wants to take HS players out of the draft. This could've been the Sox last opportunity in a long time to enhance the team of the near future and secure a more distant future . Not very many teams are committed to selling yet . Not sure there will be that many bargains out there. Also the Sox are not getting any immediate help from the international signing period at all . That is still a work in progress.

It's not like JR still isn't the owner. Getz likes to say we aren't rebuilding we are building. I think that is as true as it ever was. People think Gonzalez was a bigger chip than he is. Could be true but a decision had to be made on using him to get more draft capital and players for the present and future or waiting around to see who will outbid you on the premium talent that does end up available.

Gonzalez was going back to the minors and had no chance of increasing his value any more by playing in Charlotte. As much as I liked his contributions while Mune was gone I doubt many GM's thought of him as a premium piece . It's just as lot of wishful thinking hoping our team can make a big playoff run. But securing the foundation for the Ishbia years and a future new stadium is still top priority.

This year can stand on it's own as a year to be proud of without selling out the future for temporary help.

I’m not saying it’s not a smart trade.

But the centerpiece of the return was a draft pick, and the two assets that went were major league players.

When the centerpiece of the return is a draft pick, if you have to choose to categorize it as a “buy” or “sell” trade in the trade deadline sense of the term, any logical person would classify it as a “sell” trade.

Again, I’m not arguing that it’s not a good trade, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a “sell” trade. As you say, we’re building and trying to build up a pipeline for now and the future, so that we can don’t have the well run dry when prospects graduate. Part of that involves some of these “sell” trades, even while trying to level-up during your competitive window.

48 minutes ago, JoeC said:

I’m not saying it’s not a smart trade.

But the centerpiece of the return was a draft pick, and the two assets that went were major league players.

When the centerpiece of the return is a draft pick, if you have to choose to categorize it as a “buy” or “sell” trade in the trade deadline sense of the term, any logical person would classify it as a “sell” trade.

Again, I’m not arguing that it’s not a good trade, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a “sell” trade. As you say, we’re building and trying to build up a pipeline for now and the future, so that we can don’t have the well run dry when prospects graduate. Part of that involves some of these “sell” trades, even while trying to level-up during your competitive window.

I agree with you on this point. It can be categorized as a "sell" trade, because they are in a playoff race, and the MLB team is the #1 priority.

But the chore in front of Getz is priority #1A, and that was the draft. I would hope that as we move on through July, if some team wants to cheap out on a solid back of the rotation starter and Getz sees an opportunity to restock the minors, Kay and Fedde are out the door. Maybe even Cannon and Davitt, too.

It seems to me that Getz's MO all along was to assemble a glut of players. He has a full infield, so he traded off Lenyn, Mead and Gonzo. He moved Ant-man, Acuña, Brooks and Tanner Murray to the OF. He's setting himself up to have the same problem next season with a full IF at the ML level, Brooks and Tanner Murray being healthy, and Roch, Bonemer, Colby Shelton, Jeral Perez, Boston Smith and DiPino coming into AAA.

11 hours ago, JoeC said:

I’m not saying it’s not a smart trade.

But the centerpiece of the return was a draft pick, and the two assets that went were major league players.

When the centerpiece of the return is a draft pick, if you have to choose to categorize it as a “buy” or “sell” trade in the trade deadline sense of the term, any logical person would classify it as a “sell” trade.

Again, I’m not arguing that it’s not a good trade, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a “sell” trade. As you say, we’re building and trying to build up a pipeline for now and the future, so that we can don’t have the well run dry when prospects graduate. Part of that involves some of these “sell” trades, even while trying to level-up during your competitive window.

I don't think the centerpiece of the trade was a draft pick. That is just too simple. It was the draft pick , clearly a couple of 40 man spots on a overcrowded 40 man that with injuries was up around 48. It's the extra draft capital that allowed them to have what many are saying was a phenomenal draft. You don't have to classify it as buy or sell. That's a label that has nothing to do with what they are trying to accomplish. Maybe its semantics but I'd call it a building move that was multi-faceted in what they were trying to accomplish.

It strikes me as odd that fans so quickly want to start spending our prospects for temporary help that doesnt help the future.

Where Hahn gave sustainability lip service Getz is actually planning it and most experts see it that way. This whole weekend was like a White Sox party. This is not just me. I'm seeing stuff, clickbait for sure, but the point is valid. Chris Getz is building a White Sox MONSTER and some fans can't see the forest for the trees which I have used before fighting the hordes who were focused purely on the record and not the building of the franchise. I have been singing this song for a year now.

The tighter the roster crunch gets and the more talent we accumulate the decisions will become tougher . Now with Cholowsky and Thome maybe Billy Carlson does become available or Wolkow with all the power picked in the draft. The trade deadline will either shock us or bore us. I'm leaning more toward bore us . But I suppose even the Gonzalez trade has stirred some controversy but seems like its limited to those who aren't used to having roster crunches and players who have talent but no where to play or what real sustainability looks like. I'm guessing maybe someone along the lines of Jeral Perez type talent gets traded .