Thread is in 2025 form tonight.

Can we trade Schultz for a badass catcher that can hit.

2 minutes ago, BeaverEater48 said:

Can we trade Schultz for a badass catcher that can hit.

No but you could use him as the main piece to get Mason Miller :)

Not happening, but I guarantee you they’ve asked about Schultz

My outlook on Noah was that if he failed it would be due to giving up hard contact. That's why all the walks and stuff after he was called up was so surprising. Seemed like his risk would be in failing to get enough strikeouts and getting hit around. The optimistic median outcome I felt like was an innings-eater guy, which of course would be great to have. Upside would be about him figuring out how to generate more whiffs of course.

Overturn in CLE leads to run scoring and maybe more

4-2 CLE

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Overturn in CLE leads to run scoring and maybe more

4-2 CLE

Well at least the Cubs are good for something, chased Valdez in the first.

Hopefully the offense doesn't go dormant after scoring a bunch of runs again

4 minutes ago, Jake said:

My outlook on Noah was that if he failed it would be due to giving up hard contact. That's why all the walks and stuff after he was called up was so surprising. Seemed like his risk would be in failing to get enough strikeouts and getting hit around. The optimistic median outcome I felt like was an innings-eater guy, which of course would be great to have. Upside would be about him figuring out how to generate more whiffs of course.

I feel like I had the complete opposite expectation. Electric stuff, but wild. I expected him to look more like Rodon and less like John Danks.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

No but you could use him as the main piece to get Mason Miller :)

Not happening, but I guarantee you they’ve asked about Schultz

They want to compete this year...they're not trading for Schultz.

Long term/big picture him or Hagen makes sense for SD with their lack of pitching depth, but would need more than one of them at this point.

Think another team will offer more than Sox are willing to give up. Not a shocker.

Luisangel has been hitting better but I'm telling you he's lost like 7 to 8 hits from having to run from the RH batter's box instead of lefty. And it's pretty easy to hit a bunch of choppers batting off-handed. Maybe Getz wasn't wrong, just early

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I feel like I had the complete opposite expectation. Electric stuff, but wild. I expected him to look more like Rodon and less like John Danks.

Kay throwing harder has been a surprise...even Davis Martin.

Jon Rauch outsized expectations.

22 minutes ago, white sox 80 said:

I understand that. I like making them work. It felt like it helped out the pitcher which it did. Keep at it they'll eventually get to him.

Yea, different approaches for different days… even when facing the same pitcher. Approach can even change during the same game against the same opponent.

They saw he was in and around the zone and wanted to jump him instead of risk falling behind.

I don’t mind it - as long as they crack it and get some runs on the board, we’re good.

Sox teams in the past have been a nightmare swinging out of the zone… these guys aren’t the same.

When I see Romo swing and then I see where the ball goes, I am constantly surprised by how softly it gets hit. How do you do that? He's somehow not missing the ball entirely that often while also never hitting it square.

3 minutes ago, Jake said:

When I see Romo swing and then I see where the ball goes, I am constantly surprised by how softly it gets hit. How do you do that? He's somehow not missing the ball entirely that often while also never hitting it square.

It’s like he’s swinging a BBCOR while the rest are using a drop 8

Bottom of the lineup feels like Clayton/Johnson unless Peters is in there at that spot.

Dagnabit - Sammy isn’t helping me out there while I’m preaching these guys being in the zone swingers.

( That could be a movie title, right? In The Zone Swingers ) 🤔😆

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Bottom of the lineup feels like Clayton/Johnson unless Peters is in there at that spot.

They’re definitely going to need to upgrade the catching spot. Can’t rely on Peters to carry bottom of the order.

What's Antonacci against lhp?

Especially leading off...

160s 170s?

Schultz and Hagen Smith both busting will really hurt.

3 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Dagnabit - Sammy isn’t helping me out there while I’m preaching these guys being in the zone swingers.

( That could be a movie title, right? In The Zone Swingers ) 🤔😆

More like the Twilight Zone

4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

What's Antonacci against lhp?

Especially leading off...

160s 170s?

does it matter when we are facing a righty?

3 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Schultz and Hagen Smith both busting will really hurt.

Vargas Mune Peters Roch Taylor balances that out to an extent...but just goes to show the difficulty of young pitching development outside of CLE and MIL.

3 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

does it matter when we are facing a righty?

oops always think Rocker is a lefty and not watching the game since Texas is a terrible environment with that dome

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7 minutes ago, fathom said:

I feel like I had the complete opposite expectation. Electric stuff, but wild. I expected him to look more like Rodon and less like John Danks.

Hard to look back at his initial run in AA and find fault with the numbers, but I remember watching and noticing that the strikeouts and whiffs in general were almost always on the offspeed (mostly slider). Seemed like even the fastballs that were well-executed for a whiff would still get fouled off or hit softly. So my take then was that he wouldn't be racking up big whiff numbers if they were merely really good in AA and it wasn't driven by command problems down there. In AAA he showed some ability to get whiffs on the 4-seam but it's more about pitch sequencing when it works...get guys used to the sinker and cutter, then the 4-seam seems to zoom upwards. If the 4-seam is primary it's not going to get missed that often unless something else changes. And for whatever reason he's had terrible command of his sweeper for the most part in MLB and as of late hitters have looked surprisingly ready for it when he does get it in the zone.

Man, Noah is getting rocked. I haven’t seen him have so much hard contact. Maybe he’s going out there today sacrificing some pinpoint trying to limit free passes.