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Derek Shomon and Ryan Fuller's Approach to Hitting

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On 10/14/2026 at 7:51 AM, Falstaff said:

Why doesn't every player on the team have a 2-strike approach instead of swing from their heels?

Isn't it obvious the Sox are analytics driven? The management has no problem with all the strikeouts. Our guys I bet are encouraged to lift and pull. If the result is a HR or K that's fine. Isn't modern analytics all or nothing. It cares little about batting average and it shows. What did 5 guys hit over .300. What a joke. With two strikes it should go back to age/old philosophy. Choke up like Pete Rose and smash a single or double. Or if choking up on the bat isn't cool nowadays at least switch your swing to make contact and rap a hit. Kudos to BananaMan Peters for that one at bat this year when he fouled off what 15 pitches? Analytics make me sick. Fergie Jenkins, LaMarr Hoyt, Bob Gibson would laugh at the five-inning wonders called 2026 starters. A joke.

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On 10/14/2026 at 8:50 AM, Falstaff said:

Just thinking about some of the base clogging Sox teams in the past that would take 3 hits to get a runner home from 1st base.

The good ole station to station baseball. Andrew Vaughn comes to mind.

8 hours ago, greg775 said:

Isn't it obvious the Sox are analytics driven? The management has no problem with all the strikeouts. Our guys I bet are encouraged to lift and pull. If the result is a HR or K that's fine. Isn't modern analytics all or nothing. It cares little about batting average and it shows. What did 5 guys hit over .300. What a joke. With two strikes it should go back to age/old philosophy. Choke up like Pete Rose and smash a single or double. Or if choking up on the bat isn't cool nowadays at least switch your swing to make contact and rap a hit. Kudos to BananaMan Peters for that one at bat this year when he fouled off what 15 pitches? Analytics make me sick. Fergie Jenkins, LaMarr Hoyt, Bob Gibson would laugh at the five-inning wonders called 2026 starters. A joke.

Sox fans complained when the Sox didn't use analytics. Getz did mention the strike outs in his presser so it will be addressed .

  • Harry Chappas changed the title to Derek Shomon and Ryan Fuller's Approach to Hitting
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I changed the title as it was 100% reactionary to seek the firing but I do think there is a debate to be had over this. I had never heard of either of these gentlemen before coming to the Sox and their approach seemed to be their undoing previously but let's hope there is some growth with them and the White Sox.


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8 hours ago, greg775 said:

Isn't it obvious the Sox are analytics driven? The management has no problem with all the strikeouts. Our guys I bet are encouraged to lift and pull. If the result is a HR or K that's fine. Isn't modern analytics all or nothing. It cares little about batting average and it shows. What did 5 guys hit over .300. What a joke. With two strikes it should go back to age/old philosophy. Choke up like Pete Rose and smash a single or double. Or if choking up on the bat isn't cool nowadays at least switch your swing to make contact and rap a hit. Kudos to BananaMan Peters for that one at bat this year when he fouled off what 15 pitches? Analytics make me sick. Fergie Jenkins, LaMarr Hoyt, Bob Gibson would laugh at the five-inning wonders called 2026 starters. A joke.

Analytics told us the Dodgers struggled with pitches over 96 MPH and they are out. Struggled is an understatement I think they were hitting around .200 as a collective.

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The latest (yesterday) Jeff Passan (ESPN) podcast was a discussion of Why Hitting is so Hard this Postseason. Passan's guests were Alex Bregman and Joey Votto. Listening to these top hitters and how they think about the battle with pitchers, it really struck me was how fast the game is changing.

It's so much better that the Sox are now using analytics. But every team is using analytics and trying to get an edge.

I just went ahead and looked at Orioles fans thoughts in 2024 when Fuller got canned.

The general sentiment was for a more small ball, contact approach. Looking at how the last two years went for them, i bet they regret it.

I also saw this Fuller quote about RISP in 2024:

“(They) dont need to hit a home run. A single here is just as good as a home run, because we score the guy, and we get a guy on first base and we keep the momentum going”.

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