June 18, 200421 yr Welcome back? I saw you registered in 2002 and well 20 posts and this is the first I have ever seen you And yeah cash considerations, I would guess around 1-3mil... Deja Vu. As far as the money goes this smells an awful lot like what the Mets & Rangers did with the CWS last year. Tex & Mets paid their salaries & CWS shipped league minimum for each prospect traded. It's probably Koch + 4 mil to Marlins for Valdez + 400K.
June 18, 200421 yr More news on Valdez, this was from April 26 this season. Two shortstops in the Pacific Coast League better known for their gloves were making early impressions at the plate. Granted, Marlins farmhand Wilson Valdez plays at hitter's haven Albuquerque, but his .321 start, including a .354 on-base percentage and six stolen bases, was cause for encouragement. He's also a pure defender with excellent range and a plus arm.
June 18, 200421 yr Knew that was coming im just f***in with you guys Koch didnt cut it in CWS and thats the business, your gone if you cant produce.. We also move some salary, get a prospect, and open the gates for more moves for the sox
June 18, 200421 yr More news on Valdez, this was from April 26 this season. Two shortstops in the Pacific Coast League better known for their gloves were making early impressions at the plate. Granted, Marlins farmhand Wilson Valdez plays at hitter's haven Albuquerque, but his .321 start, including a .354 on-base percentage and six stolen bases, was cause for encouragement. He's also a pure defender with excellent range and a plus arm. Nice
June 18, 200421 yr Looks like he's Ozzie's type of SS. Plays excellent D, good arm, lots of range, a bit of speed. Could be our utility man next year, if Valentin doesn't come back and we hav Willie and Uribe startin in the infield.
June 18, 200421 yr This thread from a marlins board is hilarious. They actually like this trade. http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=20951
June 18, 200421 yr i hope and pray we can ship somethin like jose v. , raunch, and anderson/sweeny for garcia... or jose v., raunch, and borchard / reed for garcia and seatles closer (sorry forgot his name) =)
June 18, 200421 yr OMG!! Just saw it on SC's bottom line. I'm so f***ing HAPPY!! KW you beatiful SOB!!! BTW, I'm f***ing buuzzzed outta my mind!!! I'm half drunk and I nearly scored.
June 18, 200421 yr Deja Vu. As far as the money goes this smells an awful lot like what the Mets & Rangers did with the CWS last year. Tex & Mets paid their salaries & CWS shipped league minimum for each prospect traded. It's probably Koch + 4 mil to Marlins for Valdez + 400K. The SCORE has been reporting the cash being 2 mil
June 18, 200421 yr This thread from a marlins board is hilarious. They actually like this trade. http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=20951 This one's a classic. oh god, i do not want Koch.. He used to be good when steroids were allowed.
June 18, 200421 yr The SCORE has been reporting the cash being 2 mil I can definitely handle $2 mill. KW did a very nice job here I think, cut his losses with Koch.
June 18, 200421 yr OMG!! Just saw it on SC's bottom line. I'm so f***ing HAPPY!! KW you beatiful SOB!!! BTW, I'm f***ing buuzzzed outta my mind!!! I'm half drunk and I nearly scored. Didnt i tell you not to come back with that "Almost Scored" stuff?????? You keep lettin me down man :headshake
June 18, 200421 yr IowaMarlinFan: oh god, i do not want Koch.. He used to be good when steroids were allowed.
June 18, 200421 yr What I want to know is, why wasn't this trade made BEFORE the series? It really would have bettered our chances of winning...
June 18, 200421 yr I can definitely handle $2 mill. KW did a very nice job here I think, cut his losses with Koch. If he was able to save 2 MIL off Koch's salary in the move then KW
June 18, 200421 yr MIAMI (AP) The Florida Marlins acquired reliever Billy Koch from the Chicago White Sox for minor league infielder Wilson Valdez late Thursday night. Advertisement The deal was announced shortly after the Marlins beat the White Sox 2-1 in 12 innings. The Marlins acquired Koch and cash from the White Sox, who had recently replaced the right-hander with Shingo Takatsu - Japan's all-time saves leader - as the team's closer. "I was sort of expecting it a little bit, but I didn't think (Florida)," Koch said. "Through the grapevine, I hear things. I never heard the Marlins, but it'll be good. I like the heat, I like the sun." Koch, 29, never quite fit in with the White Sox after joining them last season. He appeared in 24 games this season with eight saves in 11 opportunities and a 1-1 record - but had a 5.40 ERA. Koch allowed 24 hits and 15 runs in 23 innings. "That will be the best scenario for him," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. "It's a shame it didn't work out for him here because he was a class act." The Marlins were in need of bullpen help in the middle innings to complement a solid starting rotation and closer Armando Benitez. Before trading for Koch, the Marlins' latest acquisition was 36-year-old Josias Manzanillo, who was called up from Triple-Albuquerque on Wednesday. "He's a proven closer who knows how to handle games late," Marlins general manager Larry Beinfest said of Koch. "We'll put him right in that spot, in front of Benitez. "Maybe a change of scenery will be good for him." Koch is 28-23 with 163 career saves in six major league seasons with Toronto, Oakland and Chicago. The 25-year-old Valdez was hitting .319 in 66 games at Albuquerque. Florida claimed him off waivers from Montreal in March 2002.
June 18, 200421 yr from the marlins fanbase: "i'm telling you. Jack seemed to be wrestling with whether to go with Easley or Valdez on the roster. You guys got someone there. "
June 18, 200421 yr "He's a proven closer who knows how to handle games late," Marlins general manager Larry Beinfest said of Koch. He sure does! Walk a few guys, give up a hit or 2. allow a few runs and pray you strike out the last 3 guys you face to get the save.
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