hi8is Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 i voted for joe borchard just because i figured id be the only one and then could proceed to make a joke out of it I CANT BELIEVE 8 PEOPLE VOTED FOR THIS ASS CLOWN! wow! /me shakes head i dont get it, but god damn am i glad you are not in charge of this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Maybe the other 8 people had the same idea. Seriously though where is Alex Escobar on that list... I think he's the most likely candidate after Everett reverts back to his lazy self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Guillen. Coming to his own as a hitter, Great arm in right and a nutjob, we be spending more on Psyc tests than his salary Jeromy Burnitz, a stop gap till Anderson is ready to play.. nice pop for a lefthanded bat that we need in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Those of you who voted for Borchard deserve to be shot for dumbing up the gene pool of our species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Those of you who voted for Borchard deserve to be shot for dumbing up the gene pool of our species. Considering the guy got cut in the Meixcan league.. can you say BUST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 why do people like guillen? sure he's a really good player but he's a horrible clubhouse guy... i just dont like his attitude at all... i wouldnt want him around here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 why do people like guillen? sure he's a really good player but he's a horrible clubhouse guy... i just dont like his attitude at all... i wouldnt want him around here... Because he's been awesome the past 2 years offensively and he's been one of the reasons his team has been in the playoffs 2 straight years. He may not be the best guy in the clubhouse, but there are bigger things to worry about then a guy who can do things to piss off a team. Hell, sometimes teams can fuel off of players acting like assholes...remember 2002 what happened after Bonds and Kent went after each other's throats? Ozzie's the kind of manager that could try to build momentum around that, like Baker did in San Fran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 and a nutjob, we be spending more on Psyc tests than his salary Jeromy Burnitz, a stop gap till Anderson is ready to play.. nice pop for a lefthanded bat that we need in the lineup. That's irony at it's best right there. Calling Jose Guillen a nutjob and then suggesting we get Jeromy Burnitz...considering that Burnitz has never played on a winner, although he has been on teams that have been capable of winning. Might be a coincidence...but I'm not gonna risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 That's irony at it's best right there. Calling Jose Guillen a nutjob and then suggesting we get Jeromy Burnitz...considering that Burnitz has never played on a winner, although he has been on teams that have been capable of winning. Might be a coincidence...but I'm not gonna risk it. Wait wait.. all those Milwaukee teams were winners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Wait wait.. all those Milwaukee teams were winners? Just so you know, he has also been on the mets, indians, dodgers, along with the rockies last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Borchard is closing in on Guillen. Wouldn't it be fitting if Williams used this poll to guage fan opinion of Borchard? I could imagine KW citing this thread as proof Borchard's popularity remains high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangekrush88 Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I would take Guillen in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Wait wait.. all those Milwaukee teams were winners? What was he doing in 2002 with the Mets when they assembled a bunch of soon-to-be losers? That's right, he was busy hitting .215 19 54 .677. Then the Mets had very low expectations in 2003, and he ended up starting the year hitting .274 18 45 .925 with the Mets in 65 games. He was then traded to LA, who actually had a chance at winning, and he promptly went to the s***ter again, going .204 13 32 .643 down the stretch for LA. You look throughout his career, and every year he's been on a team that had very low expectations, he's been a solid player at the very least(all those years with Milwaukee, 2003 with the Mets, and this past year with the Rockies). When he's been on teams with high expectations(2002 Mets, 2003 with the Dodgers), he's been absolutely pitiful. I want no part of Burnitz at all, even if we were going to be s***ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I don't think you can judge Jeromy's character based on losing season (unless you know soemthing specific). Look at what a guy like Orlando cabrera, a career loser, does in a playoff chase. Sometimes it brings out the best in people. Now, he was traded to a contender in LA in 03 and was horrible, but that offense had NOTHING going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawaiisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Joe Borchard is a likely option, but not a very good one. Jose Guillen is a cancer, and so is Juan Gonzalez. Gonzo also has been marred by injuries. Shawn Green is way too expensive. Anderson will be ready soon, so we dont need a 16 million dollar stopgap. Jermaine Dye and Richard Hidalgo are too expensive for a two year stopgap. I dont think Brian Jordan has anything left. Burnitz and Floyd are the best options there. They dont cost that much, but theyll put up decent numbers. You might think Burnitz numbers have been inflated by Coors Field, but remember, USCF is the Coors Field of the AL. Id give a slight edge to Burnitz because Floyd has had problems with injuries. However, I would be happy with either of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 It's probably going to be Carl Everett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 It's probably going to be Carl Everett. Not for the first month or so he will be the dh while thomas is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Not for the first month or so he will be the dh while thomas is out. actually he'll be in left, taking Carlos Lee's place. Gload/Konerko will be DH in the begining of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 dye was terrific the first half of last year. supposedly he had a bad thumb which hurt him in the second half. i dunno. at least he can play the field. better than burnitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 actually he'll be in left, taking Carlos Lee's place. Gload/Konerko will be DH in the begining of the year. What you said is more logical but i am just going from what i have heard on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawaiisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Not for the first month or so he will be the dh while thomas is out. Thomas isnt going to be ready to start the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 JD Drew will be nice to see in a sox uni. We need a left hand bat and most def he can provide that. He had good numbers last season but of course he is a BORAS client so we will not even talk to them to get him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Jermaine Dye. I heard this thing on the radio today and they were saying how Dye was playing pretty banged up during the 2nd half of the season (hand injury or something). I think someone else posted something on this as well. But he has good power and he was playing at a big time pitcher park (Oakland). I think he would do .275, 30, 90 in Chicago. Plus he plays a good RF. If the Sox trade Lee, then I expect Everett in left, Rowand in CF and Dye in RF. That would be a nice OF, imo. Although you have injury concerns in Everett and Dye, but I think Dye is back from his leg injury and should only get better this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hawaiisoxfn Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Lets not trade Lee. Why does everyone seem to want to trade either Lee or Konerko? Ok, Konerko might have some big faults (lack of speed, no road production) but Lee could be another Frank Thomas. Maybe not the .310 average every year, but 30 homeruns and 100 RBIs he could do on a consistent basis. Not to mention he could steal 15 bases or so. Not identical in evey aspect, such as patience (although Lee is by no means bad) and Lee is turning out to be good with the glove, not to mention his arm. With Maggs leaving, we should build this team around a guy like Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Lets not trade Lee. Why does everyone seem to want to trade either Lee or Konerko? Ok, Konerko might have some big faults (lack of speed, no road production) but Lee could be another Frank Thomas. Maybe not the .310 average every year, but 30 homeruns and 100 RBIs he could do on a consistent basis. Not to mention he could steal 15 bases or so. Not identical in evey aspect, such as patience (although Lee is by no means bad) and Lee is turning out to be good with the glove, not to mention his arm. With Maggs leaving, we should build this team around a guy like Lee. If we are going to trade anybody, Konerko should be the one. I agree we need to build around with Lee. We dont want to lose all our offense, we should remember we have a couple of aging players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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