Signed him for 1 year 3.4 million.

Ouch. They were hoping for about $3 million

Ouch.  They were hoping for about $3 million

Damn.

3.4 for Garland...me no likey.

That's just barely less than Buehrle.

 

Could this have any barring on a possible RJ deal?

You guys crack me up.

You guys crack me up.

nothing funny about paying 3.4 million for a 5th starter, nothing funny at all. This is just trade bait.....or it better be!!!!

And you wonder why I hate KW??

 

giving this guy 3.4 mil.. for his 12 wins a season give me a break.

Garland sucks, get him out of here.

nothing funny about paying 3.4 million for a 5th starter, nothing funny at all.  This is just trade bait.....or it better be!!!!

It sounds like people would've been okay with $3M. What the hell does $400,000 do, especially when you're not paying for it. $400,000 is $.04 in baseball.

It sounds like people would've been okay with $3M.  What the hell does $400,000 do, especially when you're not paying for it.  $400,000 is $.04 in baseball.

I wouldn't be happy with anything. Until he grows a set, we might as well keep him in the dugout or let him throw BP.

I bet this is a prelude to him being traded....

And you wonder why I hate KW??

 

giving this guy 3.4 mil.. for his 12 wins a season give me a break.

Do we need to explain arbitration to you?

And you wonder why I hate KW??

 

giving this guy 3.4 mil.. for his 12 wins a season give me a break.

How many guys have not missed a start in three years and have double digit wins each year? Greg Maddux is going to make $10M the next two years for doing about the same thing Jon Garland does. I am not comparing Maddux to Garland but at $3.4M for a pitcher that wins over ten games a year is something to not hate the GM about. I guess we should go get Cory Lidle. The problem with Jon Garland is everyone thinks he should be a stud already. Compare wins by guys his age and again tell me where he has failed. He is young and getting better but for some reason not as quickly as the White Sox and overzealous fans. I suppose you would rather have Javier Vazquez at $8/yr.

I wouldn't be happy with anything.  Until he grows a set, we might as well keep him in the dugout or let him throw BP.

He has a set, there just a little north.

How many guys have not missed a start in three years and have double digit wins each year?  Greg Maddux is going to make $10M the next two years for doing about the same thing Jon Garland does.  I am not comparing Maddux to Garland but at $3.4M for a pitcher that wins over ten games a year is something to not hate the GM about.  I guess we should go get Cory Lidle.  The problem with Jon Garland is everyone thinks he should be a stud already.  Compare wins by guys his age and again tell me where he has failed.  He is young and getting better but for some reason not as quickly as the White Sox and overzealous fans.  I suppose you would rather have Javier Vazquez at $8/yr.

 

maybe he should be ahead of where he is now. But 12 games a year and an average ERA in this era of juiced balls (heh, heh) isn't that bad. I believe he's pitched close to 200 innings in the last three years. That's not bad people.

What I find totally bizarro is that I accurately predicted Garland's salary to the freaking dollar here a few months ago. I mean, it was just a stupid wild ass guess, but I was on the money.

What I find totally bizarro is that I accurately predicted Garland's salary to the freaking dollar here a few months ago.  I mean, it was just a stupid wild ass guess, but I was on the money.

Since you got that one right, will we win the World Series before 2017?

The first thing I thought of when I saw this news was that this a prelude to a big trade that is coming. RJ.

The first thing I thought of when I saw this news was that this a prelude to a big trade that is coming. RJ.

Unfortunately, if that was the case, we probably would have just offered him Arb.

 

Arbitration is an ugly process, and avoiding it shows that the sox don't want any bad blood between them and Garland. If he was going to be traded, we wouldn't care if we dragged his name through the mud.

Well If you remember before the Sox dealt Mark Johnson they avoided arbitration with him, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I think the benefit is if you do trade him the team acquiring him knows his exact salary.

 

And if you don't trade him, you avoid and ugly process/situation (like Cheat said). It seems like the Sox are very good at staying away from letting the arbitrators decide because all the Sox do is try to say how s***ty he is and how he isn't worht this much and Garlands case is the opposite.

 

This is a perfectly good deal, he'd of gotten somewhere around this via arbitration and in this case the Sox are making the process easier on both sides. Avoid arbitration can also help set up a long term deal in the future.

 

Everyone is so hard on Jon cause they expect him to be a star and I think he has that type of ability (not quite star, but a very good 2/3). Since he isn't at that level we just assume he's crap, but he can keep you in games and goes deep into most games. Only 24 too.

3.4 for Garland...me no likey.

E-E-E-E-E-E-E!!!!

If it means it is easier to trade himthen so be it.

Everyone is so hard on Jon cause they expect him to be a star and I think he has that type of ability (not quite star, but a very good 2/3).  Since he isn't at that level we just assume he's crap, but he can keep you in games and goes deep into most games.  Only 24 too.

Exactly

I'd just like the people who think we are overpaying to list me the pitchers who we could sign for under 3.4 Mil who has pitched close to 200 IP the last three years and had around 12 wins and an average ERA who is almost guarunteed to at least put up similar numbers again. I doubt you can think of any. Some people need to just wake up. He is already a decent #3 starter and among some of the better #4 starters in the league. To complain that he's not another Mark Buherle is just insane.

I'd just like the people who think we are overpaying to list me the pitchers who we could sign for under 3.4 Mil who has pitched close to 200 IP the last three years and had around 12 wins and an average ERA who is almost guarunteed to at least put up similar numbers again. I doubt you can think of any. Some people need to just wake up. He is already a decent #3 starter and among some of the better #4 starters in the league. To complain that he's not another Mark Buherle is just insane.

How is Garland "guarunteed" to put up those mediocre numbers for 2005?

 

Cory Lidle just signed a 2 year $6.2 million with the Phillies. I would take him over Garland.

 

Get off of Garland's nuts already. He isn't anything special. :headshake

3.4 million is resonable for Garland at this point. He is way too young to give up on. Don't get me wrong he frustrates the crap out of me, and I wouldn't object to trading him, but if we avoid a higher arbitration number by doing this, then so be it.