The guy battled and won against cancer...I highly doubt it.

Yah your probaly right

The guy battled and won against cancer...I highly doubt it.

What type of cancer was it? I thought it was testicular but i'm not sure.

What type of cancer was it? I thought it was testicular but i'm not sure.

yah it was

yah it was

Ok i was pretty sure that was it but wasn't 100% on it.

Red Sox appear O's main rival in pursuit of Burnett

 

There was no significant progress in talks between the Orioles and the Marlins for Burnett. Several other teams, including division foes Boston and the Toronto Blue Jays, remain interested. It still appears likely that Burnett won’t make his next start as a Marlin. The Orioles’ offer of reliever Jorge Julio, Hayden Penn and Larry Bigbie in exchange for Burnett and possibly either Mike Lowell or Juan Encarnacion appears to be the best one available…

I hope Boston gets Burnett now. Let them blow their wad on him, and we'll scoop in and pickup Wagner and perhaps still have enough left over for Lilly.

we will not beat Boston in the playoffs if they get AJ Burnett

we will not beat Boston in the playoffs if they get AJ Burnett

 

Lets get to the playoffs first

we will not beat Boston in the playoffs if they get AJ Burnett

 

Most reports say Arroyo will be included in that trade. With Boston's s***ty pen and Schilling's healthy uncertain, I see no reason why even with Burnett we can't beat boston. Pitching wins and Boston has very little of it, even with Burnett.

 

Not to mention their defense is more than suspect...Boston is not a sound team by any stretch.

Edited July 17, 200520 yr by sircaffey

we will not beat Boston in the playoffs if they get AJ Burnett

I'd almost rather they get Burnett. Then they can't improve their leaky bullpen. Burnett's straight fastballs the other night would look like big juicy meatballs to our sox hitters

Yeah, honestly I think we could beat Burnett. This team is full of great fastball hitters. It's junkballers like Tim Wakefield who would give us plenty of trouble.

You could make a case that Contreras has outperformed Burnett this season. To take on Lowell too would be silly.

 

Good point, and looking at it realistically, when you consider 1st half performance and career #'s you can expect the same thing from both of them the 2nd half, 5-6 wins. If you expect to get the same production then why trade? Then there's the playoffs, AJB has 0 experience, Contreras has some experience. The big difference here though is that you already have a relationship with Contreras and because of that Ozzie can go up to him before a playoff start and say "Jose, if you shake off your catcher I'm gonna pull you, no ands, ifs, or buts about it". To the contrary, there's really not enough time to establish a realtionship with AJB and that could lead to Ozzie sticking with the guy beyond what's prudent. So again, the one you have now has playoff experience and because of your established relationship you are comfortable in how you will handle him in that situation, the one you'd be trading for has no playoff experience and thus is a mystery as to how he will react plus your have not established a relationship and that could lead you into poor judgements with him. So then why trade?

 

To add on taking on a contract like Lowell's to boot is insane.

To be honest, if Boston trades Arroyo(plus prospects) for AJB I'm jumping up for joy. That's a season killing trade, esp. when you consider their BP woes.

New York Daily News: Red Sox will get Burnett

 

Marlins righthander A.J. Burnett will be traded to the Red Sox within a week, an MLB official said yesterday. Boston plans to sign Burnett to an extension.

Red Sox special assistant Bill Lajoie watched Burnett's outing Thursday in Philadelphia, when he allowed six runs in five innings, including second-inning homers to Pat Burrell, Ryan Howard and Mike Lieberthal. Burnett is 5-6 with a 3.64 ERA in 18 starts this season.

 

"There is no truth at all to any deal we are making with the Marlins," Sox GM Theo Eptein said via an E-mail.

 

I'd stay out of this and let Baltimore/Boston/Toronto overpay for him and Lowell's awful contract.

I agree. For this year, Contreras is just as good as AJ Burnett. Both are liable to give up the big inning, but both also have dominating stuff.

Theo has already came out and said that his top five prospects are untouchable, and last night we had Bronson Arroyo performing a concert at Fenway, so I am really baffled at who the Red Sox would give up.

 

My guess is somehow taking on Lowell, and then giving up a Brandon Moss or something of that sort, but we do know one things for sure, the writer for the daily news should be shot. what a horrible report...

Theo has already came out and said that his top five prospects are untouchable, and last night we had Bronson Arroyo performing a concert at Fenway, so I am really baffled at who the Red Sox would give up.

 

My guess is somehow taking on Lowell, and then giving up a Brandon Moss or something of that sort, but we do know one things for sure, the writer for the daily news should be shot.  what a horrible report...

What the hell do expect, the New York papers love making up their own rumors.

New York Daily News:  Red Sox will get Burnett

I'd stay out of this and let Baltimore/Boston/Toronto overpay for him and Lowell's awful contract.

I completely agree.

Gammons says Boston is not close on a Burnett deal. He also said the Sox would have to send Contreras, Marte and either BMac or Anderson.

 

To put it succinctly .... f*** that.

Edited July 17, 200520 yr by YASNY

No f***in way would I send the Count,Marte and B Mac for Burnett

Hitting

 

Encarnacion never has been one to draw many walks, which made him a strong trade candidate in Los Angeles from the minute Paul De Podesta took over as general manager. His numbers suffered across the board because of the shoulder problem, and he finished the year in the bottom 10 in the majors in on-base percentage. Encarnacion has power to all fields and doesn't mind hitting with two strikes, but he still prefers to put the first pitch in play. A classic mistake hitter, he will deposit hanging breaking balls in the seats with the best of them. However, his overeager approach leaves him susceptible to quality offspeed pitches on the outer half.

 

Could we really afford to have another Uribe hitting on this team? There's just nothing about this possible trade to make you want to do it.

 

As has been noted, let's just get the hell out of the way and let Baltimore\Boston make this mistake.

Gammons says Boston is not close on a Burnett deal.  He also said the Sox would have to send Contreras, Marte and either BMac or Anderson.

 

To put it succinctly .... f*** that.

 

He also said that Lowell would have to come along in the deal. I hope we don't do it.

One more time: KW, please get the f*** away from the Marlins!

you think williams is stupid enough to trade those players for burnett and lowel? HA

 

good luck flordia, now, go fish!

I have a freind on another board who scored a job within the Marlins organization this past offseason. Here was his input:

Personally, I havent heard any AJ trade talk around the office. In fact, all I've heard is people around the office saying trading AJ was not on the agenda. The word from on high was that we weren't going to move him. However, if the Sox moved in and knocked our socks off, we'd probably consider it. Look at all this "we...our" crap...what have I become?