This is good trade and if we sign Konerko a great trade.

I like the trade. I just hope Thome is healthy. And I agree that Kenny is not done yet.

Thome - Thomas - Konerko to quote meatloaf two out of three ain't bad.

i absolutly hate it! A-row was our guy! What about his defense!! oh my aaron rowand..how could kenny do this!

I have confidence in Anderson. On the other hand I am not totally confident in Thome's health.

I love this deal.

If this is Kenny's way of having enough money to pay konerko....I am all for it...and Thome, PK 1-2 punch I like the looks of that

My only problem I see is Thome K's, how is Ozzie going to handle a 1-4 3K day for thome?

My only problem I see is Thome K's, how is Ozzie going to handle a 1-4 3K day for thome?

 

is the one hit a game winning hr?

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My only problem I see is Thome K's, how is Ozzie going to handle a 1-4 3K day for thome?

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Probably the same way he handled an 0-3 3K, HBP day from Rowand this past season.

 

:rolly

I f***ing hate this trade. Rowand was one of my favorite players and Thome did not show anything this past season and he is getting old while rowand is still young. I think this is a terrible move by kenny.

My only problem I see is Thome K's, how is Ozzie going to handle a 1-4 3K day for thome?

 

Thome's yearly OBP totals are absolutely disgusting:

'94 - .359

'95 - .438

'96 - .450

'97 - .423

'98 - .413

'99 - .426

'00 - .398

'01 - .416

'02 - .445

'03 - .385

'04 - .396

The guy does strike out a ton but he does average 100 walks a yr as well. Plus, a career .281 batting avg isn't bad

I really do love this trade. This was virtually what I've been asking for all offseason. I think everyone is going to miss Aaron though.

Thome's yearly OBP totals are absolutely disgusting:

'94 - .359

'95 - .438

'96 - .450

'97 - .423

'98 - .413

'99 - .426

'00 - .398

'01 - .416

'02 - .445

'03 - .385

'04 - .396

The guy does strike out a ton but he does average 100 walks a yr as well. Plus, a career .281 batting avg isn't bad 

 

i hope disgusting was a good term cause thome is a stud

My first reaction is that I like the trade. If Gio's in it, and it sounds likely, then I'm a little less happy, but I still support it. Delgado's gone, and Giles looks set to stay on the West Coast. I don't know if it was absolutely the best move, but somehow, someway we NEED some big offensive threat for next year to have any hope of repeating. Thome's a risk, but you just have to hope that the physical catches anything.

 

i absolutly hate it! A-row was our guy! What about his defense!! oh my aaron rowand..how could kenny do this!

 

Never change.

I f***ing hate this trade. Rowand was one of my favorite players and Thome did not show anything this past season and he is getting old while rowand is still young. I think this is a terrible move by kenny.

 

What about 28 years old makes Rowand "young" by any account? What I don't understand about everyone bummed about losing Rowand is it sounds like they think he can still improve. Sure it's possible, but it's unlikely as common thought tends to believe 27 is the peak age in baseball. This isn't to say Rowand is immediately going to get worse, but it does mean that he certainly is not going to get all that better.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the way Aaron plays the game and I hate to see him gone. But I think people's emotions are getting in the way...since like as many have mentioned Brian Anderson is ready and will probably provide the same statistics and be an above average CF. Our OF situation was much like Philly's 1st base situation....thus making them a quality match here. We have plently of prospects able to fill Rowand's void, and that's if we don't acquire someone like Pierre (which I'm not all that sold on).

 

You can complain about this trade all you want, but at least complain for the right reasons...because I was def. one that was ecstatic when I just saw Rowand for Thome. Once I heard the prospects involved, my optimism tempered a bit, so I think in that respect the prospects are much more important in the grand scheme of things (long term).

I really do love this trade.  This was virtually what I've been asking for all offseason.  I think everyone is going to miss Aaron though.

I'll miss Rowand for his glove (not neccesarily his arm) and his demeanor. He's a cool guy and a fan favorite. But man last year his bat was weak. A change had to be made.

Good luck in Philly, Aaron!

I'm not sure how this is a good trade at all. After winning the World Series because of PITCHING and DEFENSE we give up an above average centerfielder for a full-time DH? Did the Carlos Lee trade teach us nothing?

 

Plus, does this mean Konerko is definitely gone? If so, we now have zero defense at 1B and a guy who strikes out a billion times. He hits a ton of HRs? So what, so did Carlos and Mags, and guess where that got us.

 

This deal makes no sense to me after what Kenny did with this team last year. None.

Thome's yearly OBP totals are absolutely disgusting:

'94 - .359

'95 - .438

'96 - .450

'97 - .423

'98 - .413

'99 - .426

'00 - .398

'01 - .416

'02 - .445

'03 - .385

'04 - .396

The guy does strike out a ton but he does average 100 walks a yr as well. Plus, a career .281 batting avg isn't bad 

 

Rowand's OBP:

 

01' .385 (63 games)

02' .298 (126 games)

03' .327 (93 games)

04' .361 (140 games)

05' .329 (157 games)

yeah, i realize that there is an upside to this trade but it is hard to let go of one of my favorite players. I hope we get another otfielder tho, because although i love Brian Anderson's potential, i'm not sure if he is quite ready yet.

I'm not sure how this is a good trade at all. After winning the World Series because of PITCHING and DEFENSE we give up an above average centerfielder for a full-time DH? Did the Carlos Lee trade teach us nothing?

 

Plus, does this mean Konerko is definitely gone? If so, we now have zero defense at 1B and a guy who strikes out a billion times. He hits a ton of HRs? So what, so did Carlos and Mags, and guess where that got us.

 

This deal makes no sense to me after what Kenny did with this team last year. None.

 

Carlos Lee and Magglio both were right handed batters. A left-handed masher to compliment Paulie and Dye will be lethal.

 

Obvioulsy KW knows something that we all do not. I remember the Olivo deal and the Lee deal and thinking the same thing, WTF, but then when I saw the results on the field I saw the plan in action.

The only part i dont like about it is that Gio is involved. Other than that i am a fan of this deal.

Thome's yearly OBP totals are absolutely disgusting:

'94 - .359

'95 - .438

'96 - .450

'97 - .423

'98 - .413

'99 - .426

'00 - .398

'01 - .416

'02 - .445

'03 - .385

'04 - .396

The guy does strike out a ton but he does average 100 walks a yr as well. Plus, a career .281 batting avg isn't bad 

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Point taken.. I love the deal, that was my only consern

The only part i dont like about it is that Gio is involved. Other than that i am a fan of this deal.

 

Yeah, there will always be parts of the deal that will not sit well, but you always have to give to receive.

The only part i dont like about it is that Gio is involved. Other than that i am a fan of this deal.

We still don't know that. The best rumor right now is that it's ARow, Haigwood, and a Player to be named later...the only source I've heard thus far suggest Gio could be is Bruce Levine...and well...we should have the quote down by now.

The only part i dont like about it is that Gio is involved. Other than that i am a fan of this deal.

I agree kinda as far as Gio is concerned. The kid seems like a stud. I can only think that maybe the Sox think he's too small a guy to ever really make it big in the Majors. Anyway, prospects are just that, prospects. Scott Ruffcorn anyone?