Any chance KW moves Jose now or does a sign and deal with Jon?

Jon isn't going anywhere. I think that Jose will be back and that if they can't get an extension done they will play out the year with Jose and wait for Jose to test Free Agency.

BTW, just my two cents, but this makes me hate the Vazquez trade now.

 

seeing as how we didnt give up anything irreplaceable for Vazquez, i'm liking that one too.

 

if mccarthy is now the long reliever, he's gonna be better than Vizcaino. and then we'd likely need him year after next in the rotation. it all still makes sense.

seeing as how we didnt give up anything irreplaceable for Vazquez, i'm liking that one too. 

 

if mccarthy is now the long reliever, he's gonna be better than Vizcaino.  and then we'd likely need him year after next in the rotation.  it all still makes sense.

Agreed. As the Sox showed last year it is all about pitching. And the Sox have 1-5 the best starting rotation in baseball.

Any chance KW moves Jose now or does a sign and deal with Jon?

 

I think there's a great chance Contreras gets traded now....but what the hell do I know?

Wow. I did not see this coming at all. It does raise a lot of questions though.

 

BMac doesn't look like he'll get in this rotation for a few years, and Count looked like he's the one that waited too long now.

 

Very shocking news. I love it though.

I still would rather have Bmac in the rotation over Vazquez. Now it looks like that won't happen.

I'm confused.

I still would rather have Bmac in the rotation over Vazquez.  Now it looks like that won't happen.

Mccarthy still could use some more games out of the bullpen, i dont think hes ready right now

We'd be foolish to even conjecture as to what Williams, Hahn, and Hemond have in store for the remainder of this off-season.

 

I'm considering not making another post until opening day.

Mccarthy still could use some more games out of the bullpen, i dont think hes ready right now

agreed. They will use him like they used Buehrle in 2000. That is the right thing to do.

Mccarthy still could use some more games out of the bullpen, i dont think hes ready right now

He really started hitting his stride during his last stint from AAA.

We'd be foolish to even conjecture as to what Williams, Hahn, and Hemond have in store for the remainder of this off-season.

 

I'm considering not making another post until opening day.

 

 

We'd be foolish to even conjecture as to what Williams, Hahn, and Hemond have in store for the remainder of this off-season.

 

I'm considering not making another post until opening day.

 

That might be a good move considering at this time last week we were trying to get half of the Dodger's farm system. Garland or Contreras could still be on the way out, or both could be here. There's still a lot of time left to make some moves.

Yeah I tend to dislike the Vazques trade now a bit because he's simply not as good as Contreras at this point in their careers so what we'd get from a Contreras deal would have to be special seeing how getting rid of Young and Contreras would be removing two special players/prospects. For the same money and the same years, I'd take Contreras over Vazquez and I like Javy

agreed.  They will use him like they used Buehrle in 2000.  That is the right thing to do.

Buehrle was only used that way for one and half months in 2000. McCarthy will be used the whole season, which I think could be detrimental to his developement.

FACT: You can never have too much starting pitching!!

FACT: People will b**** here no matter what!!

He really started hitting his stride during his last stint from AAA.

True, but if we dont make any more moves, he will throw out of the pen and do some spot starts for players who are injured or tired, its nice to have that insurance

FACT:  You can never have too much starting pitching!! 

FACT:  People will b**** here no matter what!!

 

f*** it...let's trade bmac and count for tejada

I just don't see us going with a 6 man rotation. Our bullpen needs help and we have an arm to spare. K Dubs is not done.

I just don't see us going with a 6 man rotation.  Our bullpen needs help and we have an arm to spare.  K Dubs is not done.

I think you're right.

My thoughts....

 

1.) This deal makes sense from both the White Sox and JGs point of view. For the sox, they had to work out a deal with jon, at least a 1 year deal. After Foulke, they won't go to arbitration with another player if they dont have to. So they were gonna resign him for at least 1 year, why not go to 3. For jon...this puts him in an identical situation to furcal. He can sign this contract, and still go out at the age of 29 and get another huge long term deal while he is still in his prime. If he signed a 5-6 year deal now, that might be his last big time deal. This ensures him one more long deal, and probably a shorter deal afterwards.

 

2.) This probably makes Garland MORE likely to be traded now. 1 day ago the market for garland was only teams who would be willing to gamble to rent Garland for one year and hope they could resign him. Now, teams should be lined up to trade for him, since he is relatively affordable for 3 years, and in his prime.

 

3.) Whether the sox trade Garland or keep him, this is a great deal. Signing him only brings back more talent in a trade. If we keep him, we have a reasonably priced effective pitcher.

 

4.) Is it possible, that contreras will be moved to the pen? The sox originally wanted Contreras in 2004 real early in april to be the closer, and there was talk about it before....just a thought probably not though...

 

 

on a side note...i dont hate the vazquez trade at all...i watched his highlights on whitesox.com the other night...the dude is just flat nasty.

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f*** it...let's trade bmac and count for tejada

Or we just don't.

Ha!!!!!!!!

 

Thanks for giving me a good chuckle at the end of the day.

 

Yeah hope you "chuckle" when he wins 12 games and goes .500 or below record next 3 years.

You said it better than I could have, nice job.  Not sure about Tejada but I think there's another trade in the works.  A player like Garland always has more value if they're signed.

 

I don't think he will be moved considering there will be a conference call. Usually they don't do that with the player after they resigned him just to trade him.