LVSoxFan Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) My Superfan baseball fanatic co-worker says he's heard rumblings of how Hawk & DJ can't stand each other. Granted, this isn't the most relevant topic, but hey: no game last night, so I have to entertain myself. Anyway, I had heard this a while ago, back in the beginning of '05. The other big clue was, if you remember, when there was a Sox home game on FOX national last year and, as it turned out, it was DJ with the FOX guy. I had never heard DJ seem so loose and talk so much--it was that noticeable. So what's the word, Sox experts? Is there any truth to this? He was also talking about some ESPN radio clip making the rounds where, apparently, Hawk completely cut off DJ on the air to the point it was embarassing (I have not heard the clip). Edited April 28, 2006 by LVSoxFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I still like Hawk, but I think I'm starting to like DJ better now. Dude's just funny. :uhoh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I honestly think that their relationship in the booth and their cohesiveness has been A LOT better since the beginning of 2004. I used to really dislike DJ, but he's improved a lot and continues to do so, and he and Hawk do a very entertaining broadcast now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 The Hawk would never let his ego get in the way. Regards, Tom 'Whimpy' Paciorek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 C'mon people! I need some answers here! :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 When talking about their greatest White Sox moments recently, DJ--- hitting a homerun on Opening Day 1999, his last Opening Day Hawk --- winning the World Series This was an answer to an e-mail question which maybe DJ misunderstood but it also tells of who appreciates the organization more. In terms of career achievement Hawk being named GM would be greater then the Sox winning the series although he kind of stays away from this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 This conversation probably came up due to what was being discussed on M, J, & H during the last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I don't have any inside information or anything, but I don't doubt that they dislike each other. It just comes off that way to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 So what is the story behind what happened to Wimpy? I know it's been told, but I need a refresher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 You can tell when they first were put together Hawk really would jump on his ass, then Dj would sorta fight back hence the nickname "Fiesty... I think over the years they have really come together and I really doubt Hawk dislikes DJ and the same around. As hawk says, " I love when you ...(fill in anything referring to DJ)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 10:25 AM) So what is the story behind what happened to Wimpy? I know it's been told, but I need a refresher... Hawk = Big Ego Wimpy = Laid back, loose/easy attitude + became more popular and Hawk did not like it Add in some general tension and poof, Hawk, the bigger star and kiss ass, won and remained in the booth and Wimpy went bye-bye. Personally, I still like Hawk on the broadcasts, but I loved him and Wimpy together. I feel HAwk and DJ have never developed any good chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 You know what I discovered last week? Tom Paciorek is now the color guy for the Nats TV broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) So what is the story behind what happened to Wimpy? I know it's been told, but I need a refresher... I only know what I read here, and I think it may have been Steff who posted it (if not, I apologize), but the story went that Hawk made behind the scenes jokes about Paciorek's alleged abuse by a Catholic priest. I guess Tom heard about the jokes, and if so, you could understand it if he took such offense at it, that he could no longer work with Hawk. Again, I don't pretend to have any direct knowledge about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 The abuse incident is true. A year after he left the Sox, he was interviewed at length by the Detroit News and Free Press about it - it happened in Suburban Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I thought their banter was better when I heard them on some WGN games. I remember like 2 years ago when they sounded ready to fight over a shady homerun call. I don't know if I could listen without DJ in the booth. He's really gotten better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I like DJ myself, and I like Hawk. I like them together too. But, I don't like Singleton and Farmer together. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 For some reason, I've always liked DJ. I'm probably in the minority, though. Nothing compares to watching the Sox with Hawk and DJ commentating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 12:14 PM) You know what I discovered last week? Tom Paciorek is now the color guy for the Nats TV broadcast. Yes. And he pretty much does his Wimpy routine still. "Hang wiff em" is still around, etc. Still acts like he is announcing the Sox and people are in on all the inside jokes. He even had to explain one of them on the air to his TV partner. Kind of weird to have Wimpy doing Wimpy on the Nats broadcasts. It's also weird to hear him be a homer for the Nats - an organization he has no ties to whatsoever. (By the way, he's about 1 million times better than Ron Darling, the Nats' color guy last year. Darling hardly ever said anything. In the Nats' blogosphere, a typical quote from Darling is ". . . .") You know who is a great color guy who is a recent ex-player? Al Leiter. When he was in the booth in 2004, I thought he was the best color guy at that time, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 If Hawk really was making jokes about Wimpy's abuse, then that's f***ing pathetic. Personally, I think DJ is a great guy, and he's improved dramatically from when he first started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOAD is GOD Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 During the spring training braodcasts, when hawk and dj had a little less pressure, it seemed like they were getting along great, hawk would bring up some of dj's batting statistics against certain pitchers and they'd laugh about it together. I'm pretty sure hawk and dj have a pretty good relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 01:00 PM) For some reason, I've always liked DJ. I'm probably in the minority, though. Nothing compares to watching the Sox with Hawk and DJ commentating. Same. I've never had a problem with the guy, but I think I'm at the point now, where I may like DJ more than Hawk. Because you never know what he'll say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 12:29 PM) Same. I've never had a problem with the guy, but I think I'm at the point now, where I may like DJ more than Hawk. Because you never know what he'll say. you should be demoted.....NOW but honestly, hawk has had a major dropoff the past couple years. His ridiculous homer comments have gotten out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 QUOTE(SnB @ Apr 28, 2006 -> 05:31 PM) you should be demoted.....NOW but honestly, hawk has had a major dropoff the past couple years. His ridiculous homer comments have gotten out of control. Ozzie could murder a small village of children, and Hawk would still find some way to rationalize it. In all seriousness, the most annoying thing about Hawk now is the "Stretch" call on any fly ball hit over 300 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 I remember a road game last year (Toronto, maybe?) where there was lots of dead air (not a lot of action) and DJ started up with some of his priceless non-sequitirs, at one point, quoting the song "Billy, Don't Be a Hero." LMAO. That was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardsroom attendant Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I used to not believe all that stuff about Hawk putting Wimpy out, but as the years stroll by it seems more and more plausible. It's little things, like the other night on the broadcast - early in the game Hawk brings up Don Drysdale in a story and refers to him glowingly as "My former partner Don Drysdale". Then later on, the Aflac trivia question answer happens to be Tom Paciorek. And DJ says, "Tom Paciorek...the Wimpster....good ballplayer." To which Hawk replies with zero emotion, "yes, he was". Then he went right away to solicit more emails. And as far as Wimpy's work now - yes, he is with the Nats and is partnered with Bob Carpenter. It is an excellent listen if you have MLB Extra Innings, it's worth your time if they've got a good matchup going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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